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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#136526: Nov 2nd 2021 at 12:02:26 PM

I'm so excited to see Natalie with beefy arms. She sounded really proud of her gym routine on her Twitter.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136527: Nov 2nd 2021 at 12:31:53 PM

[up] She definitely deserves it after she got shafted in Dark World.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#136528: Nov 2nd 2021 at 1:54:30 PM

She wasn't even IN Ragnarok.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136529: Nov 2nd 2021 at 1:55:30 PM

> I'm so excited to see Natalie with beefy arms.

my first thought was a mental image of Natalie with comically large arms on a tiny body

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136530: Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:01:23 PM

The running implication of the set photos is that Love and Thunder is going to show Thor and Jane's breakup, and could well show what she's been doing since then. Which would honestly be a nice hole to plug after Ragnarok very drastically reshaped the Thor corner for Waititi shenanigans.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136531: Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:08:13 PM

Wouldn't her doing so much better without Thor just be more shenanigans?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136532: Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:24:51 PM

If the MCU's adaptation of Lady Thor includes her having cancer and needing Mjolnir to not die then no, she's not doing better.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136533: Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:27:26 PM

Oh wait I misread that, you said how she's doing like in general, I read that as "how well she's doing".

My bad sorry.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:30:01 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#136534: Nov 2nd 2021 at 2:36:07 PM

Honestly, where could one slot Thor and Jane breaking up? I feel like Age of Ultron would be the ideal time to slot it in, maybe during the aftermath of the battle in Sokovia, considering that there's a small time skip between the battle and the final scene at the Avengers Compound (certainly long enough for them to turn that "old storage facility in Upstate New York" into a compound, and for Laura to give birth to Nathaniel) as he says goodbye to Tony and Steve.

Okey Dokey!
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#136535: Nov 2nd 2021 at 3:28:33 PM

[up] Yeah, that would probably be the best place to slot it in.

Alternatively, they broke up some time between The Dark World and Age of Ultron, and Thor was just lying when he was bragging about Jane at the Avengers party.

In fact... where was Thor between those two films? The implication is that Thor went back to Earth to stay with Jane, but there's no mention of what he's been up to in that time. Was he just chilling on Earth when the HYDRA stuff happened? I guess he could've gone back to Asgard during that time, so I guess he never noticed "Odin" acting weird during that time?

Actually, I can totally buy Loki passing himself as Odin and being more subtle while Thor was around, and only started to get more egotistical and complacent once he left to find the Infinity Stones. Like, "Welp, Thor's gone. Might as well make giant statues of me!"

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#136536: Nov 2nd 2021 at 3:56:10 PM

Eternals Sequel Is Not a 'Must-Have,' Says Producer

Man this is the first time I think an MCU producer has tried to downplay sequel hopes before the thing comes out.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 2nd 2021 at 3:57:24 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136537: Nov 2nd 2021 at 4:40:41 PM

They cooked a turkey instead of a golden goose!

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#136538: Nov 2nd 2021 at 4:44:46 PM

Nah, a roast turkey is actually something a lot of people like.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136539: Nov 2nd 2021 at 4:45:06 PM

I prefer chicken though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136541: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:21:53 PM

Man Spader's performance as Ultron is so good, shame he was only there for a single movie.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:22:05 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#136542: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:25:59 PM

Uh, I like Spader. I just don't think the quippy, jokey dialogue he was given was a good fit for Ultron.

They like sapped any menace from one of my favorite comic book villains.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#136543: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:27:57 PM

While comics Ultron had his snarky moments his dialogue always got across the message that this robot really really hates people and wants to hurt them.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136544: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:29:44 PM

Thats why its such a tragedy. He sounds is fucking good but is not allowed to be a total fucking monster.

They just did the thing with Thanos where they gave him a different motivation so he can come off as more "noble" and "complex."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#136545: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:35:13 PM

What If...? shows us that unrestrained Ultron.

Okey Dokey!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#136546: Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:36:14 PM

Scalding hot take: all four Avengers movies are fantastic.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#136547: Nov 2nd 2021 at 6:03:13 PM

[up] You could even say they're... the Fantastic Four?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#136548: Nov 2nd 2021 at 6:15:38 PM

Oh shit imagine if they change Doom's rivalry to a dead Tony Stark.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#136549: Nov 2nd 2021 at 6:27:51 PM

Scalding hot take: all four Avengers movies are fantastic.
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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#136550: Nov 2nd 2021 at 6:40:47 PM

“That blasted Stark! Soon he will realize that DOOM is his master!”

“He’s dead though”

“Fool, do you think DOOM, master of sorcery doesn’t know necromancy?”

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