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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136101: Oct 24th 2021 at 9:33:49 PM

[up][up] Dunno if it's the same but the criticism that I've seen is criticizing the MCU machine for swallowing up these young aspiring indie directors in order to exploit them as cheap journeymen that are just meant to execute whatever by-committee project the MCU is cooking up next.

Which, y'know, inflammatory internet stuff, whatever, but also wrong in the sense that, like, clearly the MCU is trying to mix things up. Like, the biggest thing I'm seeing from the Eternals critical response, the thing that still has me hype for it, is that it by and large does feel like a Zhao film, for better and for worse.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136102: Oct 24th 2021 at 9:41:18 PM

I think much of the (fair) surprise around Zhao was because she made her mark for intimate films with non-actors and Eternals is...the opposite of that. Bigger jump from, say, Creed to Black Panther.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#136103: Oct 24th 2021 at 9:52:40 PM

[up] At the very least I haven't seen any indication that the cast was a problem. I was hoping not given Zhao's skill with non-actors but y'know.

As for the intimacy point, what's fascinating is how different a lot of the takes are. I've legit seen positive reviews praise it for being emotionally intimate and negative reviews criticize it for being emotionally detached. It honestly feels like people are watching different movies, the way some of the critiques diverge.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136104: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:01:38 PM

I'm not keeping up with the incoming reviews so I don't know the context of those opinions but honestly 'emotionally intimate yet detached at the same time' seems possible for a movie about alien middle management.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#136105: Oct 24th 2021 at 10:07:56 PM

Dunno if it's the same but the criticism that I've seen is criticizing the MCU machine for swallowing up these young aspiring indie directors in order to exploit them as cheap journeymen that are just meant to execute whatever by-committee project the MCU is cooking up next.

Which, y'know, inflammatory internet stuff, whatever, but also wrong in the sense that, like, clearly the MCU is trying to mix things up. Like, the biggest thing I'm seeing from the Eternals critical response, the thing that still has me hype for it, is that it by and large does feel like a Zhao film, for better and for worse.

I feel like I've seen this discourse tie into the complaints about the fight scenes in MCU movies too.

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#136106: Oct 25th 2021 at 5:34:19 AM

Should we make a forum page for Eternals when it releases or do we just discuss it here with the spoiler markup?

The Final Name
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136108: Oct 25th 2021 at 6:45:26 AM

[up][up]

No harm in having a seperate topic since this is the general hub for the MCU

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136109: Oct 25th 2021 at 6:52:07 AM

[up][up] I have no goddamn clue how to read this. I think I understand what the design is going for, but it looks like a kindergartener was asked to write out a long word, and he just drew a bunch of circles instead.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#136110: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:11:15 AM

I'm too dyslexic for this shit.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136111: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:16:06 AM

> Ow O Wo Wouwu

what is this shit?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#136112: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:18:23 AM

I can sort of make out most of the letters, but mostly because I already know what it's supposed to say.

If I didn't, then I doubt I'd have any chance of guessing the title from the poster.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#136113: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:27:56 AM

The style looks familiar, but not sure why.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#136114: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:28:28 AM

The cult of owo and uwu has infected even Marvel! We are doomed!

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136115: Oct 25th 2021 at 7:32:13 AM

This is all Spider-man's fault!He's a menace!

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136117: Oct 25th 2021 at 8:55:17 AM

Okay, outside of the jokes about how stupid the font looks, I do like how the OOOOOO looks much like the design of the intersecting timelines we saw after Sylvie destroyed the Sacred Timeline. And since Kang is the Big Bad, it makes sense as well.

But...why does it have to be so damn hard to read yo

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#136118: Oct 25th 2021 at 8:57:19 AM

it is not meant to be read by mortal eyes!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136119: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:09:46 AM

Made the 'Eternals' thread.

That Quantumania logo is hilarious. Not since X Æ A-12 has the internet been united in dunking on a stream of squiggles.

Theory food: Spider-Man: No Way Home Saw Tom Holland Film One Of His ‘Coolest Scenes Ever’ With Mystery Character – Exclusive

What he could say is that the scene features his Peter Parker, Marisa Tomei’s Aunt May, and Jon Favreau’s Happy Hogan – along with a mystery fourth character. “It’s four people sitting at a table, having a conversation about what it’s like to be a superhero, and it was amazing,” Holland tells Empire. “The other day we watched the scene, my brother and I, and our jaws were on the floor.”

Clearly it is just a doppelganger/alternate version of Peter Parker played by Holland.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 25th 2021 at 11:24:41 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136120: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:14:40 AM

[up] Oh man, the amount of outrage that would break the internet if both Andrew and Tobey turn out to be Ralph Bohners...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#136121: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:39:39 AM

[up]Especially if they are actually named that...coincidentally, no relation to the WandaVision character.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136122: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:40:32 AM

I'll be honest, I thought it was pronounced "bonner" when I first saw the name.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#136123: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:44:13 AM

Spider-Man France, Pierre Bonheur

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#136124: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:48:11 AM

[up] Spider-Man Italy: Pietro Boehner

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#136125: Oct 25th 2021 at 9:52:19 AM

I really don't get people being upset at that. It's a perfectly fine name, and the joke they made about it was super underplayed, not aggressive at all.


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