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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#135826: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:41:55 PM

It's ambiguous as to whether she a) wears clothes and then shapeshifts them with herself when she shapeshifts or b) just shapeshifts herself into herself but wearing clothes. But one way or another, she typically wears outfits like this.

Her attire might change here and there, though the skull hairpiece is universal to her non-disguised looks. But she never just walks around blue and naked.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#135827: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:45:35 PM

Even if one is making a statement about I dunno human mores, the weather is an issue

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135828: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:46:55 PM

Plus, now that X-Men is a Disney-owned thing, something tells me they'd want to avoid having a female character who's naked all the time. Also don't think Feige would approve, given he's not interested in making Stripperific comic outfits for female superheroes in the MCU. So yeah, I doubt nude Mystique will be a thing going forward.

Although I'm willing to bet that there's going to be some loud complainers from a few Fox X-Men fans when that does happen.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 19th 2021 at 3:47:48 AM

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Pet Owner
#135829: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:47:26 PM

I think Fox Mystique was using a chameleon look with her or the skin being her showing her mutamt pride.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#135830: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:48:02 PM

It’s very mutant pride to get frostbite

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135831: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:48:31 PM

I'm reminded Fant4stic had Thing run around bare-ass naked.

I don't know why, maybe someone at Fox had a fetish for it.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135832: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:49:14 PM

Are we sure it's all just "mutant" pride?

And yeah, I gotta wonder how she remains warm on a mountain somewhere if she doesn't shapeshift into a person wearing clothes.

[up] I'm starting to think that Mystique being naked in the movies was purely because way too many people got horny, and just rolled with it.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 19th 2021 at 3:50:17 AM

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#135833: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:49:24 PM

[up][up]Fortunately now Hulk can introduce him to a tailor.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 19th 2021 at 5:49:37 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135834: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:50:47 PM

[up] Or we'll get more bad Mallrats superhero junk, lol

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 19th 2021 at 3:50:54 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#135835: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:50:51 PM

I sitll love me some Michael Chiklis-Thing. He and Laurence Fishburne as Norrin were the only perfect casts from the first two F4 movies.

Edited by Forenperser on Oct 19th 2021 at 12:52:27 PM

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Pet Owner
#135836: Oct 19th 2021 at 4:37:17 PM

[up]x6 They also love forests.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#135837: Oct 19th 2021 at 7:19:14 PM

Yeah, the "mutant pride" explanation makes sense insofar as why she is in her natural form as much as possible when she doesn't have an explicit reason to be disguised, but it doesn't explain why she always runs around naked in the Fox-verse. It certainly doesn't disallow her from wearing regular clothes when she's not on a mission.

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#135838: Oct 19th 2021 at 7:27:46 PM

I think she just wants to walk around nude and makes up excuses to justify it.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135839: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:26:17 PM

*the writers want her to walk around nude and find excuses to justify it. No Shameless Fanservice Girl is created in a vacuum, I always say.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 19th 2021 at 11:27:03 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135840: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:29:23 PM

And at last the world premiere of The Eternals.

And on that note I am currently reading the original series by Jack Kirby.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135841: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:29:36 PM

For a theoretical Hulk movie, who would you want to be the villain?

I'd go with Xemnu, he is so cool.

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Surrounded by weirdoes
#135843: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:31:56 PM

It'd be interesting to see a proper Planet Hulk adaptation and see Hulk going up against the Red King or something.

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The Tapestry Weaver
#135844: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:41:01 PM

I want me some Radioactive Man.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#135845: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:48:34 PM

I second the Leader, preferably with another character as his muscle.

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#135846: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:51:40 PM

Xemnu or Maestro, probably. The Leader is his technically most fabled Arch-Enemy alongside Abomination, but I think The Leader works best as a shadowy mastermind with other villains to take the lion's share of the plot (he's used in effectively this capacity in Immortal Hulk, for one), so he'd need someone else for cover.

Xemnu and The Leader as the Big Bad Ensemble sounds alright to me. Xemnu does his "Don't you remember me, kids, Xemnu from the magic planet?" routine while The Leader tries to take control of the Hulk/siphonh his energy. Maybe The Leader as a shady ally to Hulk against Xemnu even, but after Xemnu goes down The Leader's plan of taking over the Hulk takes the center stage.

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#135847: Oct 20th 2021 at 2:13:29 PM

The Red King may have been the central Big Bad of Planet Hulk, but I would like to see the Spikes and how at first they appear to be a typical zombie plague and then turn out to be more complex so Hulk has to find a way to help them. Even the animated movie didn't adapt their full plot.

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#135848: Oct 20th 2021 at 3:27:50 PM

Red Hulk, honestly, since William Hurt would be awesome in the role. As for new characters, Zzzax.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135849: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:51:30 PM

It's probably way too early to try introducing The One Below All as an antagonist or even as a Greater-Scope Villain.

Edited by M84 on Oct 20th 2021 at 7:51:40 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#135850: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:52:00 PM

I don’t know if movies are the correct medium for the One Below All honestly

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