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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#135801: Oct 19th 2021 at 8:49:59 AM

I can neither confirm nor deny.

Edit: given that you've not seen any of the Disney plus serieses, which of them are you looking forward too?

(Just to be clear, I was trying to refer to the X-Men. My choice in words was supposed to be a play on their nickname of being "Children of the Atom".)

As for the second point, I guess I'd have to say The Falcon & The Winter Soldier, Loki, and Hawkeye.

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#135802: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:01:41 AM

[up][up] I don't remember much from the show but I thought the aura surrounding Lucifer makes people more honest with their intentions, like a form of alcohol intoxication and the thing that made him confused about the love interest was that when he went full blast honesty powers on her, she wasn't impacted and didn't reveal her secrets. Him being a casanova was more from his personality and good looks and (apparently being a good lover). Funnily enough, there was an episode where the police had to interview the people he slept with (because of there being suspicion that the murderer on that episode was possibly a jealous lover of his)and while all of them considered him to good in bed, they really considered him to be just a one night stand and didn't really feel enough to even consider him any more than just a good lay. Thus, it was unlikely that any of them would care enough about him to be jealous of him sleeping around. He was quite heartbroken by that fact.

Edited by Ohmknight on Oct 20th 2021 at 12:24:00 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135803: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:41:47 AM

In some less spoilery news, it seems that Marvel's shifted release dates might be for less dramatic reasons than we initially thought...

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 19th 2021 at 9:41:57 AM

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Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#135804: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:47:21 AM

[up]I still can't believe some people thought that the schedule changes were because of The Batman.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135805: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:49:44 AM

that meddling bats!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135806: Oct 19th 2021 at 9:55:01 AM

[up][up] It baffled me as well. But I won't go delve into my thoughts on that.

I still wonder if the movies will get further delayed if the IATSE strike becomes a thing.

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#135807: Oct 19th 2021 at 10:13:01 AM

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has begun filming.

Okey Dokey!
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135808: Oct 19th 2021 at 10:36:34 AM

[up] I am Groot!

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jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#135811: Oct 19th 2021 at 12:42:24 PM

The Thor movies are kind of the black sheep of the MCU, prior to Ragnarok. Watching the first Thor film again, I can't help but think that this movie could actually work really well if they just set it on a longer timeframe. Like Dr. Strange, the main thing working against it is that it just happens too fast.

Thor's development and the development of his relationship with Jane are only problems because they occur overnight. But, like, imagine if there had been a time jump put in there.

Loki tells Thor that Odin is dead and he can never come home. Dr. Selvig tries to convince Coulson to release him and fails successfully. They drink, they fight, Selvig makes his ancestors proud, and Thor begins his new life in permanent exile.

Then we move to, like, three years later. Or five. Or something. Thor and Jane are in a long-term relationship, possibly even married. S.H.I.E.L.D. is still secretly monitoring him as well as extensively studying Mjolnir. Loki has governed Asgard while the Warriors Three and Sif conspire behind his back to uncover the truth of what happened on Thor's coronation day. And then they find it, kicking off the rest of the movie.

You'd have to also change the post-credits scene to Iron Man 2, since S.H.I.E.L.D. can't have just found the Hammer yesterday, but I think it'd be for the best. A lot of Thor's stuff in the MCU is predicated on him and Jane being devotedly committed to one another and him loving Midgard more than any other realm. Giving him time to really settle in and become an Earthling properly would make his transition into both the end of this film and the other films fit better.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#135812: Oct 19th 2021 at 1:20:03 PM

"What If... Thor Remained Human?"

... Sorry, that was kind of a freebie you handed me.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#135813: Oct 19th 2021 at 1:37:39 PM

Speaking of leaks and What If...?, What If...? Season 2 episode titles got leaked:

  • What If... Tony Stark Was On Sakaar?
  • What If... Odin Never Banished Hela?
  • What If... Captain Marvel Killed Yon-Rogg?
  • What If... Dr. Erskine Took The Super Soldier Serum Himself?
  • What If... It Wasn't Agatha All Along?
  • What If... Agents of Shield Was Canon?
  • What If... Ultron Won What If...? Season 1?
  • What If... I Were To Purchase Fast Food And Disguise It As My Own Cooking?
  • What If... A Pebble On Hawkeye's Farm Was Two Centimeters To The Left Of Where It Was In The Sacred Timeline? (Season Finale, sets up Season 3, Uatu seemingly dies for real?)

These are totally real, I swear. My aunt's landlord's brother's co-worker's granddaughter's pet goldfish who works at Marvel Studios told me.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Oct 19th 2021 at 4:37:54 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135814: Oct 19th 2021 at 1:38:44 PM

Mephisto All Along might well and truly break the fanbase.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#135815: Oct 19th 2021 at 1:40:19 PM

What If It Actually Was Fox's Pietro? (Plot twist: this still does not introduce mutants to the MCU; Pietro goes back to his home reality at the end of the episode.)

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135816: Oct 19th 2021 at 1:48:32 PM

imagine if the spell Dr. Strange used was one Mephisto gave taught him,thats the kind of Mephisto reveal I'd go with

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135817: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:09:03 PM

Huh ya know watching X-Men: First Class, Shaw's plan of creating a nuclear apocalypse where only Mutants are the survivors would make a great AU story.

Like Fist of the North Star: X-Men edition.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#135818: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:45:43 PM

... I would watch a super-jacked Erskine beating up Nazis.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135819: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:47:45 PM

"People often forget the first country the nazis invaded was their own....

...TIME TO REMIND THEM!"

Erskine with the super-soldier serum would basically be Doc Savage.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#135820: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:49:47 PM

[up]x4 Magneto metting MCU Cap would have been cool.

Just Makima.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135821: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:50:58 PM

Ironically Stanley Tucci himself is known for posh/effeminate/gay roles.

So of course I would watch that.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 19th 2021 at 4:53:13 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135822: Oct 19th 2021 at 2:56:57 PM

[up][up] Ooooh that would be fun.

Also pfffft Mystique showing up to Xavier in her naked blue form and then being offended at him telling her to put on clothes.

Girl you wear clothes in every other incarnation. The Foxmen is literally the only version of you that likes to strut around blue-ass naked.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#135823: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:09:56 PM

Shaw's plan seemed kind of short sighted, because you still need humans to live long enough to conceive and raise your generation of post apocalyptic mutants. Who won't be visibly mutants until at least 12.

It's a cool idea and is helped by Shaw being seemingly ageless, but what is he plannig to DO for a generation in a nuclear winter?

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#135824: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:15:59 PM

[up][up] Yeah, I think it would be best if in the MCU she mostly goes around shapeshifted into "as herself, but wearing clothes" most of the time when she isn't disguised as anyone. When she's not on a mission or otherwise in a position where she might need to shapeshift on short notice, she might just sometimes *gasp* wear regular clothes.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#135825: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:38:53 PM

Was she not able to shape shift clothes in the comics?


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