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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#135751: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:30:25 PM

I recall seeing Hit Monkey in Bad Days but never saw the Eternals in anything.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135752: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:35:08 PM

I swear someone at Marvel said "we can make superhero team work in the MCU" and took Eternals as a challenge to make a non mainstream thing popular

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135753: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:43:35 PM

[up] Guardians of the Galaxy was Marvel flexing their left bicep. Eternals appears to be Marvel flexing their six-pack. Or at the very least, their right bicep.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135754: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:43:48 PM

I think the developers of the Deadpool game first announced a Hit-Monkey game as a red herring to the actual DP game.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135755: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:44:29 PM

I think their trial runs for "let's just go for a deep cut" were Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy. Ant-Man has a hallowed history in the comics so he's more of one of those "big in the comics, not good on the mainstream" tytpes, but the Guardians of the Galaxy were legitimately a bit obscure even in the comics. The mind-blowing success of GOTG was the point where Marvel learned they had the audience hooked and could run with any batshit concept they wanted because the MCU brand by itself was strong enough to carry anything.

Eternals and Shang-Chi are just the logical outcomes of this.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#135756: Oct 18th 2021 at 12:51:02 PM

....Y'know there's nothing so far suggesting Hit-Monkey can't be MCU canon, awkward introduction of Lady Bullseye aside. Just saying. ;)

Also yeah, Hit-Monkey at least had meme status which was better than the Eternals overall but certain individual Eternals were significantly bigger than Hit-Monkey ever could be. Even for somewhat second-stringers like Gilgamesh - Hit-Monkey's only really truly bigger than absolute no-one-gave-a-shits like Kingo.

[up] Agreed and it's why I'm so hype for the rest of this upcoming phase. The MCU finished Endgame and declared that now the weird shit was gonna happen, and we're already getting it with all the multiverse stuff. Really want to see what gets blown open with Eternals, NWH, and MoM, and I can't wait for everything else to finally release to (which is why the delay news is kinda agonizing [lol]).

Edited by Watchtower on Oct 18th 2021 at 3:56:17 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135757: Oct 18th 2021 at 1:02:30 PM

First I'm hearing of ' Hit-Monkey' seems like a fairly niche meme character

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#135758: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:39:03 PM

Agreed and it's why I'm so hype for the rest of this upcoming phase. The MCU finished Endgame and declared that now the weird shit was gonna happen, and we're already getting it with all the multiverse stuff. Really want to see what gets blown open with Eternals, NWH, and Mo M, and I can't wait for everything else to finally release to (which is why the delay news is kinda agonizing [lol]).

It certainly is frustrating for Multiverse of Madness specifically given just how much of the 2021 slate involves the multiverse: WandaVision had an admitted fakeout through Fietro, Loki re-kickstarted the multiversal war, What If...? saw alternate realities and had the Watcher even pull together main characters from some of these timelines to stop Infinity Ultron, and No Way Home is bringing in Sam Raimi's Doctor Octopus and Green Goblin as well as Marc Webb's Electro.

Okey Dokey!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135759: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:41:34 PM

delaying Multiverse of Madness is going to send the rumour mills spinning even faster,I which they would release the movie to disapprove the click bait

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135760: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:43:53 PM

[up][up] And given that Multiverse of Madness involves several of those multiversal threads from various movies/shows being woven into Strange's story, it's a little frustrating we gotta wait just a little bit longer. Oh well.

I'm at least happy that Hawkeye hasn't been delayed. It would be pretty awkward to be advertising An Ass-Kicking Christmas show in the middle of February...

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 18th 2021 at 2:44:03 AM

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ErichoTOME Since: Apr, 2015
#135761: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:45:11 PM

Just saw Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and absolutely loved it! I loved how they put it up ambiguously about how it fits into the MCU. I haven't seen Black Widow yet. Was there something from that film that ties into Shang Chi?

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The Tapestry Weaver
#135762: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:47:05 PM

[up] Nope. Black Widow is pretty much standalone for the most part.

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#135763: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:49:58 PM

One of the Widows was a fighter in Xialing's tournament.

The10thGeek Mysterious Fan from Somewhere in England Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Mysterious Fan
#135764: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:51:27 PM

[up]One of the Black Widows was seen early on in the Fight Club, fighting an unnamed opponent.

[nja]’ed by Emerald Emperor

Edited by The10thGeek on Oct 18th 2021 at 10:52:46 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#135765: Oct 18th 2021 at 2:53:03 PM

Dang widows are going to show up everywhere,like the mutants will when Xmen starts being a thing

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Vault Dweller
#135766: Oct 18th 2021 at 4:21:56 PM

delaying Multiverse of Madness is going to send the rumour mills spinning even faster,I which they would release the movie to disapprove the click bait

Certainly, I for one would love to see a trailer just to see certain Scarlet Witch rumors die. sad

Okey Dokey!
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Pet Owner
#135767: Oct 18th 2021 at 4:43:39 PM

Give me Ash Willaims as Mysterio from Rami Verse.

Just Makima.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135768: Oct 18th 2021 at 4:56:43 PM

That was in fact the original plan.

What the MCU really needs is a return of Sam Raimi's Darkman.

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ErichoTOME Since: Apr, 2015
#135769: Oct 18th 2021 at 8:29:04 PM
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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#135770: Oct 18th 2021 at 8:31:07 PM

This sounds like it has very little to do with the MCU.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#135771: Oct 18th 2021 at 8:38:41 PM

What does Apu from The Simpsons have to do with anything?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135772: Oct 18th 2021 at 8:44:46 PM

On that note Kingo is our first Indian superhero right?

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135773: Oct 18th 2021 at 8:52:04 PM

[up] Well I mean...he's technically an alien. And Kumail Nanjiani is Pakistani-American.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135774: Oct 18th 2021 at 9:00:35 PM

Kingo is our first Indian-passing (he is specifically a Bollywood actor according to promo materials after all) Human Alien, to be specific [lol]

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135775: Oct 18th 2021 at 9:24:02 PM

Now that I think of it, I guess it makes sense that an Eternal obsessed with the idea of fame is named Kingo...

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