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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#135452: Oct 13th 2021 at 11:45:29 AM

[up] Not that it's necessarily a bad idea, but isn't he a little young for that role or am I just making the mistake of thinking Voodoo is much older?

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#135453: Oct 13th 2021 at 11:53:22 AM

Voodoo's age is fairly nebulous as far as I can tell, having him at around Boyega's own age for him "starting out" would be probably younger than he's traditionally portrayed but not remarkably so.

Edit after quick Google: In his first story Voodoo's just come back after graduation (as a psychologist? Or another specialist medical role at least) so Boyega will be 30-31 AT LEAST by the time this hypothetically could happen so I reckon it could work.

[down] Edit edit: That is a fair point about the Haitian actor for the role mind you.

Edited by jakobitis on Oct 13th 2021 at 12:01:06 PM

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#135454: Oct 13th 2021 at 11:58:50 AM

Most superheroes are generally depicted as being somewhere between 35-50, but their age is rarely stated due to how comic book time works.

Brie Larson was considered to be too young for Captain Marvel also, being younger than Boyega is now when she was cast.

That being said, it would be nice if Drumm was played by someone who is actually Haitian.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#135455: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:00:56 PM

I mean, there are plenty of characters to Race Lift as well.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#135456: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:04:06 PM

Yeah Drumm is a psychologist, he has an M.D. (which is not exactly how that works generally, but that's comics for you).

Edited by ArthurEld on Oct 13th 2021 at 12:08:35 PM

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#135457: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:15:17 PM

Any ideas for who should play Blue Marvel assuming he gets into the MCU?

My top picks are Ernie Hudson or Andre Braugher.

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#135458: Oct 13th 2021 at 12:17:30 PM

Y'know, I was just reading a fic with Brother Voodoo making an appearance.

That being said, it would be nice if Drumm was played by someone who is actually Haitian.

I could see him being portrayed by Jamie Hector or Treva Etienne.

Edited by dmcreif on Oct 13th 2021 at 3:19:36 PM

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#135459: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:11:45 PM

Is Boyega even interested in working with Disney or even blockbuster stuff anymore? He may be (understandably) burnt out on it.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#135460: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:13:31 PM

I also think the point is valid that you'd want somebody Haitian to portray Vodoo.

I still remember that there was some controversy about no real Jamaicans being cast in Luke Cage Season 2.

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#135461: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:23:24 PM

Oh yeah Blue Marvel and now Monica around can lead to a fun adaptation of The Ultimates……. Though sadly without Black Panther.

Still though a fun concept especially since it’s a team of the strongest and smartest beings on the planet comprised primarily of dark-skinned people with Carol as the only white person.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135462: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:24:33 PM

Ironically, the most prominent black british (like John Boyega) character in Marvel is Blade (born in Soho, London), and he has never been really portrayed as British, with both Wesley Snipes and Mahershala Ali being american (and both presumably using their natural accents). It's in fact pretty rare for anyone to remember he is in fact British (even in the comics, he has been consistently portrayed as speaking in american ebonics).

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#135463: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:32:36 PM

I honestly forget that Blade is a marvel character at times,that time before the MCU is a different one for sure

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 13th 2021 at 8:32:49 AM

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#135464: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:37:01 PM

[up][up] Inb4 the fans of the Wesley Snipes Blade Trilogy start complaining when the MCU's Blade actually has a British accent.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Oct 13th 2021 at 1:37:12 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#135465: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:41:07 PM

Is Blade still British in the comics? I kind of assumed he'd been retconned as American due to the Snipes movies.

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#135466: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:43:20 PM

[up][up][up]Its because Blade has until the films and even after always been more of a supporting character for Dracula in The Tomb of Dracula or parts of supernatural teams in the comics.

Edited by miraculous on Oct 13th 2021 at 1:43:40 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135467: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:55:44 PM

To my recollection, yes, he's still British in the comics. It's just no one particularly cares. Even in his debut in Tomb of Dracula Blade spoke in (what could be interprete as) 70's american ebonics full of "Honky!", "cat", "ya dig?".

My impression has always been that Blade was made british in the comics solely because the British Isles are the stomping grounds of Bram Stoker's conception of vampires and Blade has always had his dealings with Dracula, the Van Helsings, the Harkers, Murrays, Sewards and Moriss of the world.

To my recollection, Blade is also another one whose origin remains in the same period of time because as a vampire (well, dhampyr), he doesn't age (or ages very slowly). So Blade is, chronologically, about 89 years old. Woner if they'll go with that in the MCU version.

Edited by Gaon on Oct 13th 2021 at 1:56:43 AM

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#135468: Oct 13th 2021 at 1:59:08 PM

Which is from the movies. In the comics, his dhampyrness (sorta) only gave him immunity to being turned. It wasn't until he got bitten by Jared Leto that he gained the movie powers (including healing and decreased aging).

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#135469: Oct 13th 2021 at 2:01:35 PM

Captain Britain & MI 13 made a point of Blade being British (by birth) but it was treated that he'd spent so much longer in America that his accent/cultural background was way more American than British anyway. It also played him up as having knowledge of/a mission against supernatural threats that WEREN'T Vampires, though they were still overwhelmingly his priority.

He's "officially" a Brit but essentially American in every other sense that counts.

Edited by jakobitis on Oct 13th 2021 at 2:03:43 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135470: Oct 13th 2021 at 2:10:37 PM

Unrelated but I was recently on the worlds smartest man page and I noticed this bit

"In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, for a long time Tony Stark held the honor of "smartest person" in the MCU. In recent years this has been challenged, however;Black Panther (2018) establishes T'Challa's sister, Shuri is at least on par with him, and The Wakanda Files has Shuri note that Hank Pym is perhaps more brilliant than any of them-to the point where she mildly idolizes him for the sophistication of his Pym Particles, which not even a team of Wakandas crack scientists can figure out."

Awwww Shuri is a huge fan of Hank, now I want them to meet.

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#135471: Oct 13th 2021 at 2:14:08 PM

There are Wakanda files?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#135472: Oct 13th 2021 at 2:15:41 PM

What I like about the MCU is that it genuinely seems like the various geniuses are less Omnidisciplinary Scientists and Hank, Bruce, Tony, and Shuri are all geniuses in different ways.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#135473: Oct 13th 2021 at 2:53:10 PM

Oooh, once we get MCU Blade I can add him to my 70s MCU Avengers fan fic idea along with Isarah Bradley, Hank and Janet.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135474: Oct 13th 2021 at 3:02:05 PM

Don't forget Bill Foster a.k.a Goliath. So you have quite a roster there between Ant-Man, Wasp, Goliath, Blade and Captain America II. Surprisingly diverse too (actually more black members than white ones).

Red Guardian might have also been active during the 1970's, so you could add him as a Friendly Enemy who opposes the heroes but also helps them when greater evil arises.

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#135475: Oct 13th 2021 at 3:14:52 PM

There are Wakanda files?

It’s a tie-in book.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Oct 13th 2021 at 3:15:19 AM


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