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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135301: Oct 11th 2021 at 4:39:42 AM

There will always be someone who wants to rule the world or multiverse in this case

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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#135302: Oct 11th 2021 at 4:49:53 AM

[up][up][up] I can't remember exactly what my thought processes were, other than "of course the heroes aren't going to let the Snap stand as soon as they get access to time travel", or that Kang came from a timeline with the Time Heist and so thinks it's essential to his existence. It's a theory that I gave up on once the finale aired, so I haven't thought about it in a while.

[up][up] Yep. HWR's setup does give him a huge advantage over any other would-be multiversal conquerors who aren't his variants; if he sees one pop up, he can just send the TVA to prune them early. Any alternative solution will have to take into account that variants of Kang aren't the big problem, it's anyone who decides they want to control as many universes as they can.

Edited by Ayasugi on Oct 11th 2021 at 7:50:13 AM

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#135303: Oct 11th 2021 at 5:26:57 AM

wild mass guess There was only one universe until the Time Heist created parallel ones. These timelines then performed Time Heists and created more timelines to perform Time Heists and create yet more.

Further uses of time travel over the millennia across the many timelines produced even more timelines, much more disparate from the previous ones. Time grew wild.

Which means, of course, that the entire Kang War happened because Tony Stark invented time travel. wild mass guess tongue

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#135304: Oct 11th 2021 at 7:47:49 AM

[up] The Kang War happened because that one time Hulk was forced to take the stairs. [lol]wink

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#135305: Oct 11th 2021 at 8:12:02 AM

I think Kang being related to anyone is a bit of a pointless trivia since there’s so much time between the present and Kang’s time that he could be related to every important character

At different times he’s claimed to be related to both Reed and Doom and so what?

If it’s Tony instead it’ll be so what because Kang isn’t like Ultron with a hate on for dad. He hangs around picking fights in the time of the Avengers because he’s bored

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#135306: Oct 11th 2021 at 8:19:27 AM

wild mass guess Kang is Steve and Bucky's descendant. After Steve went back in time and left him here, Bucky immediately hooked up with Steve's grandchild in a move he calls The Captain Rogers. Centuries later, the bloodlines of Steve, Bucky, and Tony and Sam for good measure, have resulted in Kang. wild mass guess

Mind you, this only happened because these four men biologically reproduced. Kang is the product of franchise-enforced heteronormativity.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 11th 2021 at 8:24:36 AM

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#135307: Oct 11th 2021 at 8:47:05 AM

You know, there was talk of how someone would've wanted to see Steve Rogers and Logan in WWII and I raise you Logan and Isiah Bradley. Hell, show us Korea and reveal that Logan is part of how Bucky lost his arm.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#135308: Oct 11th 2021 at 10:21:31 AM

Eternals Featurette

A lot of focus on the cosmic sides of things, which I suppose shouldn't really surprise me but kind of did.

There's a decent chance that this movie might be what ends up really defining the post-Endgame MCU in a lot of major ways.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#135310: Oct 11th 2021 at 12:01:20 PM

Random insight after our recent mentions of Danny Devito: He'd also make for a absolutely fantastic Mole Man.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#135311: Oct 11th 2021 at 1:05:21 PM

I wonder if when casting Marvel considers how likely actors are to retire in ten years time.

Well I'm sufficiently hyped for Eternals to the point where I'm now avoiding promotional material so that I can go in more fresh.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135312: Oct 11th 2021 at 1:18:13 PM

On that note I've been meaning to get the the original Eternals collection by Jack Kirby.

Figured to do so in honor of the movie and to give myself a reason to read something from the King himself.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#135313: Oct 11th 2021 at 1:26:30 PM

Comixology will probably put them on sale just before the movie comes out.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#135314: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:23:45 PM

[up]x5

Not surprising.

Obviously there's going to be some element of Marvel hyping up their own movie, but I feel like there might be more to it here. At the very least we are going to get a proper introduction to the Celestials, which shouldn't be underestimated in their importance.

I'm almost wondering if the Eternals will at least start the process of integrating the mutants into the MCU. My understanding is that the Celestials do have a link to at least some versions of the origin of human mutants in the comics, so it's not entirely unbelievable that this will hold true here.

I'm certainly not expecting the X-Men to turn up, but I'm not going to be surprised if one of those post credit scenes involve some of the Eternals talking about the idea of mutants.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135315: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:26:34 PM

[up][up] Yeah but I prefer my books physical.

Found a pretty good price for 32 dollars and that edition came out last year.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#135316: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:38:59 PM

Okay, I'm gonna be completely honest. I've had a really difficult time remembering the names of each Eternal, and which one is which.

Only since the character posters have come out have I had better luck remembering them. Off the top of my head, I can recognize/remember Phastos, Sersi, Thena, Gilgamesh, Druig, Sprite and Ikaris. Sometimes.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#135317: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:42:24 PM

[up] I probably couldn't even name that many unprepared. But honestly I'm not too worried about that since I doubt it'll be an issue when actually watching the movie.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#135318: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:50:49 PM

I fully expect to be calling them by their actors' names until at least immediately after. If only because while I'm pretty good with character names, the people I'll likely be conversing with afterwards are much more likely to recognize "Salma Hayek" over "Ajak" [lol]

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135319: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:54:39 PM

Like the only one I remember is Ikaris and thats cause he's played by Rob Stark.

Pretty easy to remember Ikaris and Black Knight that way, they played by the Stark brothers. tongue

Wait Makkari is also pretty memorable due to being deaf.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 11th 2021 at 2:54:57 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#135321: Oct 11th 2021 at 3:50:04 PM

[up] Well this should be interesting. Can't say I know this actor or many of the movies he's been in, but he certainly looks handsome.

I'm curious, was Adam Warlock British in the comics?

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#135323: Oct 11th 2021 at 3:53:32 PM

I can already see the eyebrow memes.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135325: Oct 11th 2021 at 3:55:34 PM

Oh I am so excited to see how hes gonna look with all that make-up.

Keep in mind this is what Adam looks like

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/warlockadam_6926.gif

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 11th 2021 at 3:55:59 AM

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