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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#135001: Oct 5th 2021 at 6:20:32 PM

2 hours and 36 minutes.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135002: Oct 5th 2021 at 6:30:56 PM

Well okay that should be enough time.

And shit No Way Home is even longer than that……… Huh wonder if they’ll drop the whole Home name theme afterwards.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#135003: Oct 5th 2021 at 6:39:09 PM

[up] Spider-Man: In Da Big House!

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135005: Oct 5th 2021 at 11:50:38 PM

He did play an Enfant Terrible in The Good Son.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#135006: Oct 5th 2021 at 11:55:35 PM

When he does appearances these days, it tends to be a fair amount of black comedy, including that video he made that was effectively "what if Kevin grew up to be a serial killer?"

I could see him playing a decent version of one of those disturbed street level types like Bullseye.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 5th 2021 at 11:56:44 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135007: Oct 5th 2021 at 11:58:26 PM

He’d make a perfect Arcade.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#135008: Oct 6th 2021 at 12:02:29 AM

[up] There. That's it exactly. I was trying to think of the the kind of villain I saw for the kind of stuff he does, and yeah. Arcade is perfect.

That said, my list of actors (or actresses, if they do a lift) who could play arcade is getting bigger and bigger all the time. It already includes Daniel Radcliffe, Josh Gad, Cameron Monaghan, etc, etc...

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135009: Oct 6th 2021 at 12:05:20 AM

Shit Arcade is basically what if Kevin decided to become a supervillain.

That’s a fun casting.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135010: Oct 6th 2021 at 12:07:01 AM

Whoever portrays Arcade would have to be adept at portraying a total loser. Arcade's more or less a bored rich guy who puts people through ludicrous death traps For the Evulz.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if the MCU could make the Avengers Arena storyline work.

Edited by M84 on Oct 7th 2021 at 3:08:00 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135011: Oct 6th 2021 at 12:40:58 AM

Weird thing I just realized.

Okay so its noted that Thanos got a personality and motivation change from going from a very card-carrying villain to someone more dignified and noble-ish.

The weird thing is that it also applies to Ultron, I never noticed that before. Ultron in the comics is a mad dog, motivated to destroy humanity purely by pure psychopathic hate. The movie though emphasizes a more tragic portrayal of the bot, where there's more dramatic position about how its a tragedy he fell so low of his noble purpose.

Its odd to notice.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135012: Oct 6th 2021 at 1:07:38 AM

Ultron's different personality makes sense since he has a very different origin. He's based off of a different person, so it makes sense that he embodies a different set of inner demons.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135013: Oct 6th 2021 at 1:13:02 AM

That kinda makes less sense.

I would not call Tony Stark dignified in any sense of the word.

Well granted Jarvis prolly makes up for that.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 6th 2021 at 1:14:22 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135014: Oct 6th 2021 at 1:14:28 AM

MCU Ultron isn't dignified either. He pretends he is, but it doesn't take much to expose his Psychopathic Manchild nature.

MCU Ultron essentially embodies his creator's Control Freak tendencies and obsession with keeping everyone safe no matter what. Except worse since he lacks any of Tony's restraint or moral compass.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2021 at 4:16:10 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#135015: Oct 6th 2021 at 1:30:29 AM

Well being based off of Tony does also give Ultron an in-universe reason to make a lot of quips and jokes.

Otherwise he'd have to be (gasp) menacing. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 6th 2021 at 1:39:17 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135016: Oct 6th 2021 at 1:35:14 AM

Fucking Whedon and his obsession with quips.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#135017: Oct 6th 2021 at 2:08:19 AM

In terms of hype I've u-turned on the Eternals in the past few months.

At first the only thing it seemed to have going for it was being set over thousands of years (which genuinely interested me) but now I've grown to be interested in the family reunion plot, an introduction to the Celestials, and the fact that some of the powers on display look slick.

Also the hints are that the team broke up in part because they grew to love humanity so much that some of them did want to start interfering or wanting to live among them. And that kind of warms my heart.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#135018: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:38:30 AM

If MCU Ultron were based on Hank Pym he’d call the Avengers wombats

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135019: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:43:03 AM

An MCU Pymtron would take Hank's insistence of keeping his knowledge to himself to murderous extremes since he would have no moral compass.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2021 at 9:43:16 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#135020: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:55:19 AM

“Nobody can steal Pym particles if there’s no one alive.”

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135021: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:03:02 AM

I kind of feel like regardless of who the "base" for Ultron is, Ultron would eventually come to a Kill All Humans mindset. It's amazing how many problems you can solve with murder if you have no moral compass or attachment to humanity.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2021 at 10:03:30 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#135022: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:13:00 AM

I mean, in the end he still made his own choices. Nobody to blame for that but himself. Same as in the comics.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#135023: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:19:21 AM

No one said otherwise.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#135024: Oct 6th 2021 at 8:09:00 AM

Now, to point out that Chloe Zhao, who is known for intimate films with smaller casts, hasn't directed such a large and flashy ensemble film before would be more fair.

While valid Zhao's also really good at directing casts of non-actors - her last two movies both have people playing fictionalized version of themselves - so the hope is that giving her an Ensemble Cast of mostly well-established actors is giving her gold to mine from.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#135025: Oct 6th 2021 at 9:06:00 AM

I'm kinda curious, has any version of Ultron adopted Pym particles?


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