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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Watch they bring back Daredevil... but it's the Ben Affleck version. I would use that salt on my fries
Yeah, people are really going all in with these trojan horse theories. "Wandavision is actually going to be about canonizing the X-Men!" "Dr. Strange 2 is actually going to be about Wanda, and also about canonizing the X-Men!" "Spider-Man No Way Home is going to be Dr. Strange 1.5, and is going to minimize MCU Peter in favor of Raimi and Garfield Peter!" "Guardians 3 is going to be a Thor movie!"
And now "Echo is actually going to be about Daredevil."
A lot of the way you can tell these theories aren't accurate is in how often people forget that thse shows are going to be about the people they're stated to be about, and how often people forget that "X character is appearing in this story" isn't the same as "X character is going to be taking over this story entirely."
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 2nd 2021 at 12:41:18 PM
Yeah. As others have said, they seem to be more invested in fanservice than in actual stories.
And another reason I know the Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness leaks are fake is because if they are true, I honestly don’t know how they'd redeem or even get the audience to sympathize with Wanda in later movies/shows.
Okey Dokey!For what it's worth, I think Charles Murphy can describe it best
: "Surrounding Alaqua Cox, in her own series, by a primarily white cast who don’t look like her would be nothing short of insulting and undermine having made her the star to begin with."
I don't think she even has her own supporting cast, she hasn't even had her own comic before.
Before she was basically a supporting character to Daredevil then Moon Knight before being killed off in the latter's comic.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 2nd 2021 at 2:38:27 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."One thing the theory does have going for it (and, imo, the only reason it's gotten as far as it did as even halfway credible) is that Echo doesn't really have a setting of her own and kind of weaves in and out of the stories of Marvel's other street level heroes, which includes Daredevil (including major role from the Kingpin) but also Moon Knight, Hawkeye, etc.
The theory is just taking that opening all the way and going "it's gonna be Daredevil Season 4!"
She's one of those characters who has a hand in everything and no specific place, though. As
says, she's the freakin' Pheonix right now.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 2nd 2021 at 2:34:30 AM
Echo's nothing like Daredevil anyway besides the both of them being examples of the Disability Superpower trope. Daredevil's a blind lawyer who fights with sticks, Echo's a deaf mobster's kid who can mimic people's fighting styles.
The legend has returned.Loki's never worked with the TVA before, and Shang-Chi's supporting cast was mostly original characters with a villain he's never actually met in the comics. Echo will probably be fine on that front.
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It is possible that we'll see the Kingpin, given her backstory.
Beyond that, it's a toss up as to whether they'll give her a supporting cast of comics character or OCs to be honest. After Shang-Chi being full of Canon Foreigners, it's difficult to tell.
This is what has me sour about a lot of MCU talk this year, up to and including the Venom 2 victory-lapping: it's not just that people are more invested in fanservice over storytelling, it's that to said people the fanservice is the only thing these movies are good for. It legitimately rattles me that the "craftsmanship" that people so often praise the MCU for achieving is possibly as simple as efficiently tying together lore and fanservice, past, present, and future. The MCU is by no means high art but I didn't think I was being an elitest fanboy dumb-dumb for thinking of the MCU as more than just vehicles for quips and punching.
And like, one thing I legitimately respect about the MCU is the level of legitimate care that's placed into the storytelling. When I brought up Perlmutter forcefully integrating all of the FoX-Men films, story be damned, I don't think I mentioned how critically and commercially acclaimed such a move would be. They could literally air-drop Hugh Jackman's Wolverine randomly from the bloody sky and receive thunderous applause. I like that there's a legitimate concern for introducing them naturally in the narrative, I like that they actually want to tell stories with themes and messages. If the Venoms prove anything it's that they could get away with so much less and I'm glad they try to have just a bit more meat to them than that.
I would agree with this too. An Echo show needs to be, deserves to be, an Echo show. They threaded the needle getting a deaf First Nations actress to play a deaf First Nations superheroine, literally plucked her out of school, and the worst thing they can do to her is exploit her show as a stealth revival of another series.
Edited by Watchtower on Oct 2nd 2021 at 8:31:44 AM

Like I can get DD showing up for a team-up, that is within the realm of possibility as unlikely as it is.
But Echo being a set-up for a new DD show is bullshit. Hell Echo itself is a spin-off of Hawkeye, so what the fuck would this be? A spin-off of a spin-off, how fucking recursive are we gonna get?
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."