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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#134351: Sep 24th 2021 at 1:15:43 PM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#134352: Sep 24th 2021 at 1:22:22 PM

If Marvel still did DTV animated films like DC does, they could potentially do a good adaptation of Kraven's Last Hunt. It might not have the same impact, but DC's films show that they can adapt stories with a lot of backstory set in its own continuity and still turn out good (see Batman: Under the Red Hood).

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 24th 2021 at 4:22:36 AM

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#134353: Sep 24th 2021 at 2:18:18 PM

Marvel had a DTV line around the time of the first Iron Man, but I think the last one was Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow. I think they discontinued them partly out of financial failure and partly because they were Lionsgate co-productions and they were bought out by Disney around that point.

Edited by Aleistar on Sep 24th 2021 at 5:19:01 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#134354: Sep 24th 2021 at 2:20:22 PM

They also collabed with Madhouse in the early MCU days; see Marvel Anime.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#134355: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:05:29 PM

I'd be curious if the success of Star Wars Visions leads to future Marvel Japanese animation collabs in the future? Marvel, especially Spider-Man and the X-Men, has always enjoyed a decent amount of Germans Love David Hasselhoff over there. Most of the current anime output is Shounen, but I imagine there's room for more Seinen fare. Particularly since the Russos and Michael B. Jordan have admitted to being big anime fans in the past, there's definitely room to explore this.

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 24th 2021 at 6:10:42 AM

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#134356: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:14:58 PM

[up] Well, as stated before, Marvel has no shortage of anime productions under their belt.Marvel Disk Wars: The Avengers and Marvel Future Avengers comes to mind, and they were done while being owned by Disney. The only thing they haven't done is the anthology approach.

[up]X3: Actually, they have done more sporadic DTVs after the Disney purchase, but naturally not with Lionsgate. Pretty much all of them, unlike those movies, were aimed towards the youths that like the Marvel Universe-era of shows on Disney XD.

Some include those 3DCG Iron Man and Hulk/Captain America: Heroes United films, Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell, and Frost Fight.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Sep 24th 2021 at 6:15:21 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#134357: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:23:30 PM

Well Studio Bones is going to have an easy time with a Steve Rogers short. Just draw a blue helmet and shield here and done. [lol]

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#134358: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:41:45 PM

Spider Man anime would work very well in Japan.

Just Makima.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#134359: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:45:05 PM

Well the Deadpool Samurai manga has been doing pretty great so we might get more Marvel manga adaptations.

Hopefully it leads to more serious epic stories like how Gundam does their manga original stuff.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#134360: Sep 24th 2021 at 3:47:45 PM

If they can't pull a whatever-the-Alternate Company Equivalent-to-Justice League Dark-is-called-I-forgot in live action I would love to see that animated.

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 24th 2021 at 5:47:53 AM

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#134361: Sep 24th 2021 at 4:14:34 PM

If you're looking for, like, a straight-up black ops Avengers team, there's Secret Avengers. There's also X-Force, which is typically black ops X-Men.

If you mean more like a supernatural horror team, there's the Midnight Sons: a loosely-affiliated group of supernatural mostly-antiheroes like Ghost Rider, Morbius, Dr. Strange, and Blade. I think they're getting a video game soon.

And then, of course, there's the Thunderbolts; but that's more the Marvel equivalent to Suicide Squad.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 24th 2021 at 4:15:12 AM

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#134362: Sep 24th 2021 at 4:22:04 PM

Justice League Dark is DC's new premiere occult team, replacing Shadowpact.

The Midnight Sons are getting a game, but got renamed as Midnight Suns because there are some girls involved, such as Magik and potentially the player character.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#134363: Sep 24th 2021 at 4:22:23 PM

Huh if we do Secret Avengers then thats one reason to bring in Taskmaster since he was a member of said team.

Interesting about the Thunderbolts is that the later incarnations is very much Marvel doing a Suicide Squad. The original incarnation is more of a distinct execution of villain protagonist story.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#134364: Sep 24th 2021 at 4:24:35 PM

Yes, I was thinking of Midnight Sons. In the style of Castlevania (2017) or something.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#134365: Sep 24th 2021 at 4:24:36 PM

Well Studio Bones is going to have an easy time with a Steve Rogers short. Just draw a blue helmet and shield here and done.

It's so 'Murican that I can hear an eagle screeching in the distance.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#134366: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:24:28 PM

Phil Coulson has reappeared in the MCU for the first time since Avengers... in Marvel's What-if in an alternate timeline. Go figure.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#134367: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:26:44 PM

Man remember when he was a regarded enough character that he got his own spin-off?

Wild how long ago that was.

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#134369: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:30:24 PM

Yeah, I think he's still pretty well regarded. It's just that he's been dead for years, so he doesn't get talked about much or put in appearances very often anymore.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#134370: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:30:49 PM

[up]x4 You forgot about his appearance in Captain Marvel.

Edited by Falrinn on Sep 24th 2021 at 7:31:01 AM

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#134371: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:32:10 PM

  • Carol Danvers made the Avengers an idea.
  • Nick Fury made the Avengers a reality.
  • Phil Coulson made the Avengers happen.
  • Tony Stark made the Avengers feasible.
  • Steve Rogers made the Avengers succeed.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 24th 2021 at 7:33:08 AM

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#134372: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:34:17 PM

D'oh.

Coulson has appared since the firs... you know the fix.

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#134373: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:37:25 PM

Coulson appeared on the comics for a while, not too sure how well he was doing in popularity, but... He had a really hard fall from grace and got shoved really hard into the toybox, so I guess he won't be seen in a good while.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#134374: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:46:58 PM

Not a fan of comic-Coulson cause of how they really forced in his movie popularity there.

I get being mad but the amount of shit that Deadpool got for killing him is downright unreasonable.

Its like how in the recent Taskmaster series, Maria Hill pinned her death on Taskmaster and this compelled Black Widow to hunt down the poor guy like a woman possessed.

Fucking Shield agents, not sure why so many heroes go to such bats for those mooks.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#134375: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:47:26 PM

Looking it up, it appeared the 616 version of Coulson was killed by Deadpool during the lead-up to Secret Empire, went to Hell, and ended up working for Mephisto.

Goddamnit, it's like the comics are actively trying to drive away fans of the MCU...


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