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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#133926: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:31:54 AM

I think they won't really reference the Netflix Series, they'll probably go the Broad Strokes route.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#133927: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:34:01 AM

Now that I think about it, this is a reoccurring thing.

The most common complaint about Loki's show is that Loki himself was underpowered. That in particular appeared to notably annoy a good deal of people to the point there was some cheering when What If portrayed him very impressively in one episode.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133928: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:38:29 AM

I definatly expect the cliff hangers of the serieses to be ignored all together.

I'm not sure what plot you would do for a Daredevil Disney Plus mini series given that we've seen a lot of his usual plots already. Sure you have the larger MCU for him to play with but no ideas pop into my mind. Echo is probably a good shout, given that she traditionally believes he killed her mother (heck perhaps he did, accidently).

Heroes for Hire or Daughters of the Dragon on the other hand would feel pretty new, being street level team of do gooders, which something the MCU hasn't gone before and it would be allowed to have a lighter tone than netflix would have allowed.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#133929: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:14:34 AM

How 'bout Matt Murdock & Jennifer Walters: Attorneys at Law?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133930: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:17:51 AM

Definitely.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#133931: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:36:59 AM

In regards to the T'Challa discussion, I do think that the character was just getting started when Chadwick Boseman passed away, and it's truly a shame we lost such a great actor.

There's actually this one rapper I follow who is constantly going on about how T'Challa actually should be recasted instead retiring the character, as he argues that killing him off or otherwise not using him would be an insult to Chadwick's legacy instead of the other way around. There's a few people who agree with him too. Hearing his opinion vs. the opinions of those who support Disney's decision to retire T'Challa just makes me realize how much the character means to the African-American community, and how complicated the Black Panther film franchise will be going forward.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#133932: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:42:26 AM

Yeah he's a pretty big deal.

He's a black character who actually has his own thing. Like he's not a legacy character cribbing on stuff established by a previous character, but everything about him is his own.

Thats big. Like Batman has Gotham, and Black Panther has Wakanda. He has a distinct mythology.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#133933: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:44:24 AM

Also,no lightning powers,as is fairly typical for black super heros for some reason

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133934: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:53:51 AM

It's not my lane but I always thought it makes more sense to recast the character and continue allowing the character to do the best he can for representation in the most sucsesful film franchise.

Am I right in thinking the black super hero has electricity powers stems from the influence of DC's black lightning?

Edited by Whowho on Sep 19th 2021 at 7:55:07 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#133935: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:54:54 AM

There are arguments for retiring T'challa, and there are arguments for re-casting.

Neither situation is easy, and there are probably points for both.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133936: Sep 19th 2021 at 11:55:56 AM

I hope that the character continues to appear in animated ventures like What If.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#133938: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:00:36 PM

Its an odd trope.

Off the top of my head, there's Miles Morales, Static, and in a weird example during the recent Legion of Superheroes reboot the one character who got racelifted into being black is Lightning Lad.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2021 at 12:00:54 PM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133939: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:20:50 PM

Storm, bubblebee.

Weird.

Edit: Okay I'm rewatching Deadpool and I know it would make no sense for Collosus, Juganaught and Domino to make the transition to the MCU with him as you'd need an explanation for mutants to come with them, but gosh I love these versions of the characters.

Edited by Whowho on Sep 19th 2021 at 8:22:55 PM

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#133940: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:39:45 PM

I'm not sure what plot you would do for a Daredevil Disney Plus mini series given that we've seen a lot of his usual plots already. Sure you have the larger MCU for him to play with but no ideas pop into my mind. Echo is probably a good shout, given that she traditionally believes he killed her mother (heck perhaps he did, accidentally).

As I noted a month and a half ago, there are a bunch of other caveats in hand: the logistics, scheduling, and most importantly the tone, language, and graphic violence. The latter two things are probably the biggest deals, given the Netflix shows didn't shy away from showing blood and the characters also used a lot of cursing.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#133941: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:07:49 PM

I don't know why people still think Deadpool 3 will be in thr MCU. Most probably they will do their own story in the smae world which ends with Deadpool (and maybe Vanessa) transported to the MCU, maybe a clone o variant transported to it while original Deadpool gets a happy ending with Vanessa in his world, or just the stinger showing him in the MCU without any explanation at all.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#133942: Sep 19th 2021 at 1:09:45 PM

The whole Electric Black Guy cliche actually came about because Black Lightning had some weird legal issues surrounding him for a while, and as such a lot of writers or people making adaptations had to make expys whenever they wanted to use him, and it just snowballed from there.

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#133943: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:07:50 PM

[up][up] Aside from Kevin Feige explicitly saying as such? I imagine a lot of it has to do with the fact that Deadpool is just about the one character who you could have open his own movie explaining how it fits into the MCU, how it affects the cast and the previous two movies' plots, and not only have it work but actually be completely on-brand for the character.

jdeo1997 BLADE Pathfinders from Orion–Cygnus Arm Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
BLADE Pathfinders
#133944: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:16:23 PM

I just want Deadpool to explain in the first announcement/teaser the situation about from pre-MCU Marvel movies up to the Fox buyout before saying "But the legal situation doesn't matter, as I was always here", followed by a montage of scenes from the previous MCU entries with Deadpool shoddily photoshoped in

Edited by jdeo1997 on Sep 19th 2021 at 5:17:20 AM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#133945: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:20:49 PM

I just want Deadpool to explain in the first announcement/teaser the situation about from pre-MCU Marvel movies up to the Fox buyout before saying "But the legal situation doesn't matter, as I was always here", followed by a montage of scenes from the previous MCU entries with Deadpool shoddily photoshoped in

There'd have to be at least one joke of him gushing about how hot Chris Evans is.

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#133946: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:21:36 PM

Yeah uh unlike most examples which are rumours.

The deadpool 3 is in the MCU was actually confirmed by Feige. We just don't know how yet?

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#133947: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:46:52 PM

Maybe have it so Deadpool caught the attention of the TVA by time travelling too much?

Because after all, we don't know the exact M.O. of Kang's version of the TVA, so they could monitor the new timelines as well.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 19th 2021 at 5:47:58 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#133948: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:48:11 PM

I personally would have Deadpool 3 just go full throttle on the subject and have the plot be Mojo plucking Deadpool out of the Fox-Men-verse. Mojo, of course, here having a striking resemblance to Kevin Feige and constantly talking about 'BIG MULTIVERSAL CROSSOVERS.

Mojoworld is just Disneyworld with numbers filed off.

Edited by Gaon on Sep 19th 2021 at 2:48:35 AM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#133950: Sep 19th 2021 at 3:07:39 PM

Lets just go full meta and mega crossover.

Just casually have Battleworld for a Deadpool film.

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