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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#133301: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:34:38 AM

[up] We didn't find that out until well after the show was over, mind. The theorycraft was done at that point.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#133302: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:37:27 AM

There’s some artifacts of it, like how the Yo Magic commercial is better explained as a warning to Wanda since she didn’t know “Agnes” was a witch feeding off her yet.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 9th 2021 at 9:37:52 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133303: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:37:55 AM

My only unanswered question — that I assume will eventually be answered — vis a vis Strange and Wanda is that Strange snatched up Loki after he walked around New York for 30 minutes and let the Westview charade go on for [insert period of time]. I get that traffic to New Jersey is bad, but...

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#133304: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:45:33 AM

They avoid New Jersey.

I'm looking forward to a possible duel between the two that rivals Strange's duel with Thanos.

Because as others have said, you have Weak, but Skilled (Strange) on one side, Powerful But Unskilled (Wanda) on the other.

Edited by dmcreif on Sep 9th 2021 at 12:45:55 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#133305: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:49:56 AM

It’s funny but Wanda is so powerful but unskilled that learning the most basic ass magic lessons makes her even scarier

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#133306: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:00:02 AM

Remember that before Westview, this was the biggest thing Wanda ever accompanied.

Which was also Wanda falling back on Steve's team orders from Age of Ultron: "if you get hurt, hurt them back. If you get killed, walk it off."

Okey Dokey!
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#133307: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:18:04 AM

They avoid New Jersey

Not for much longer...

In other news, set videos have apparently leaked of Andrew Garfield in No Way Home. I'd link to it, but the posts I saw have been taken down, so I guess it's legit.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#133308: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:22:24 AM

[up] I saw one in gorgeous 4K. Some have argued it's a deepfake, but that's really reaching at this point. If it quacks like a duck etc

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#133309: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:23:42 AM

Can't find hide or hair of it even with an internet search, and I would've assumed something like that would be everywhere.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#133310: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:27:18 AM

[up]Here's a 4K one that's still up.

[down] I wondered that too, but you can clearly see the glove of another Spidey costume on the left talking to him, but it's hard to tell if it's Tobey or Tom's.

Edited by lbssb on Sep 9th 2021 at 10:34:28 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#133311: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:29:05 AM

... my immediate question is - since it's just a video of Andrew in the suit in front of a bluescreen with no context - is that from Far From Home, or a behind the scenes clip from one of the Garfield films? Sony would copyright it regardless of where it came from.

Another oddity is how these clips were apparently online for ages, yet are only being taken down now. If it was immediate, I'd see it, but the behavior here is odd.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 9th 2021 at 10:30:06 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#133312: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:36:48 AM

Makes me think he's talking to his stunt double on the set of an Amazing film a decade ago.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#133313: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:37:21 AM

I think "assume it's from the Garfield duology until proven otherwise."

Okey Dokey!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#133314: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:39:47 AM

I keep reading Garfield and the first thing I picture is a fat orange cat in a Spiderman costume

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#133316: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:47:06 AM

Yeah,like that.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#133317: Sep 9th 2021 at 12:38:39 PM

Just saw an extended vid on Youtube, the Garfield footage is definitely from the set of No Way Home, the video includes Tom Holland. You can also hear Toby's voice briefly.

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#133318: Sep 9th 2021 at 12:47:36 PM

[up]...Do you have links to these things?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 9th 2021 at 12:47:48 PM

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#133319: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:13:22 PM

Makes me think he's talking to his stunt double on the set of an Amazing film a decade ago.

I considered that too, but then I did some digging and discovered that Amazing 2 used green screens instead of blue. And he's wearing the ASM 2 suit here, so it can't be from the first one.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133320: Sep 10th 2021 at 2:36:47 PM

'Eternals' will also get the same 45-day theatrical exclusive release as 'Shang-Chi', as will some of their other films in the pipeline (“West Side Story,” “Ron’s Gone Wrong” and “The King’s Man”); "Encanto" gets a 30-day window.

Looks like Disney was happy with how 'Shang-Chi' turned out.

ETA:

And Marvel Studios staked claim to new dates in 2024 for untitled projects, on Feb. 16, May 3, July 26, and Nov. 8.

[thinking emoji]

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 10th 2021 at 5:02:08 AM

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#133321: Sep 10th 2021 at 3:49:27 PM

I feel like one of those will be a Scarlet Witch project.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#133322: Sep 10th 2021 at 3:56:05 PM

One of those is definitely Deadpool 3, and another is possibly Cap 4. There’s some kind of upcoming mutant / X-Men project, so maybe that’s one as well.

We haven’t heard hide or hair of any upcoming “team up” film, which is interesting. Granted, phase 4 is still in its early stages, but it’s still also worth thinking about. If they are doing Young Avengers, all the characters they’re speculated to use should be established by then.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 10th 2021 at 4:01:08 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#133323: Sep 10th 2021 at 3:59:09 PM

If the dates are for MCU projects in general and not just movie release dates, one of them could probably be Loki season 2.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133324: Sep 10th 2021 at 4:15:42 PM

The article was about Disney's theatrical release plans, so def movies.

One of those is definitely Deadpool 3, and another is possibly Cap 4.

Maybe the last is Blade? Or maybe they could get one of those done by end of '23 — there's apparently nothing there yet — and the '24 date is something else.

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 10th 2021 at 6:16:50 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#133325: Sep 10th 2021 at 4:23:49 PM

one of them is either Xmen or Fantastic four

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