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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Also, just give him the costume this time. C'mon, a mystical Immortal Weapon shouldn't just be running around in a jacket and jeans.
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonI've thought about it quite a bit and not only am I a fan of Race Lifting Iron Fist as Asian but I think you can specifically differentiate him from Shang-Chi by explicitly making Danny Chinese-American, to contrast Shang-Chi being explicitly native Chinese. The Asian diaspora experience for a descendent of immigrants is significantly different than that for the immigrants themselves, which I think would be really good to explore with Danny Rand, especially since as a Chinese-American he would still be an outsider.
The only concern is perpetuating All Asians Know Martial Arts, but you address that by bringing in Jimmy Woo's Agents of Atlas and having Chloe Bennet reprise as Quake and just overall bring in a bunch of other East and Southeast Asian superheroes. You address the stereotype by not making it the majority of the representation.
Edited by Watchtower on Aug 31st 2021 at 8:34:22 AM
I'd rather they Take a Third Option and have Danny be played by a Latino, Middle Eastern, or South/Southeast Asian actor. He's supposed to be an outsider, and a Foil to Luke Cage, and besides, Shang-Chi is aiming pretty hard to cover the Chinese American demographic specifically.
Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 31st 2021 at 10:28:59 AM
The honest trailer tears into him as some hipster appropriating someone else’s culture but that technically is his culture.
He was stranded there as a kid and was raised in Kun Lun for most of his life since. The guy is culturally wherever the Hell in Asia Kun Lun is located.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."No, Wendell Rand was always white in the comics.
He, like Danny, just happened to have spent time in K'un-Lun, before he left the city and married Heather. In Wendell's case it was because he was brought there by a previous Iron Fist, Orson Randall. It was his desire to return there that got him killed (along with the comics version of Meachum) and led to Danny growing up in the city.
Part of his backstory (fighting Davos, defeating him but not killing him and having the match decided by a judge) was adopted for Danny in the show.
In this hypothetical universe where Cox, Ritter, Colter and any other Netflix stars get to reprise their roles, I'd rather they bring back Jones too. He was perfectly fine in Luke Cage's and Iron Fist's second seasons, and it'd feel mean and spiteful to single him out just because of season 1's poor reception.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Should prolly just give him a different haircut and make him shave the facial hair then. It helps to make him feel like a different character despite being the same.
Granted I never liked Jones' facial hair for the character especially since Danny is generally clean-shaven.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."- I'm kind of just tired of hearing fans complain about him and I'd rather not have to listen to it all over again. Like you said he gave a better performance in subsequent seasons but the fandom continued to suck all the fun out of it.
The problem was always with the writing. Don't blame the actor, blame the writers.
Also, Finn Jones wasn't really in a position to refuse the role. He did interviews around the time of season 1 about how he was DJing and bartending while working on Game of Thrones to pay rent. Given how late he got cast, he was expected to bulk up, which requires a lot of training (and eating) in and of itself, train in wushu and Tai Chi to pull off the more contemplative close up moments, learn the script, and move from London to New York City, all in the span of about a month. (This rushed schedule really shows when you contrast it with how Charlie Cox had six months or so between casting and the start of filming Daredevil season 1 to bulk up, learn his fight choreography, learn how to convincingly play a blind man, adapt an American accent, etc.)
And it's not helped that they had to rush Iron Fist to get it out before The Defenders. In a perfect world, the production wouldn't have been rushed. They could've alleviated it a bit by casting an actor with a martial arts background, but that would've led to people simply blaming that actor for other problems the show had.
Okey Dokey!I don't hate Finn Jones for playing Danny. I do, however, resent the casting director and producers for casting Finn Jones. Actors are just trying to play the role they're cast for to the best of their ability.
Actors tend to be the face of films, so they're given an inordinate amount of specialness within the production - even to the point of fans and interviewers trying to ask deep lore questions to these people who have little creative input over the direction of the production. Directors also get a lot of attention because of auteur theory, which is cancer. Everyone else might as well not exist so far as the fandom is concerned.
This means that when a film is well-received, the actors and director get hailed for their upstanding production and everyone else can go to hell. And when a film is not well-received, fans form lynch mobs to assault the actors and director regardless of who actually committed the offense.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Personally, I'd bring back Finn Jones as a different character since Danny became a powder keg. Finn Jones as Orson Randall (the predecessor Iron Fist to Danny) or the Prince of Orphans (another of the immortal weapons) would be a curious sight.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
I agree with this sentiment.
Finn Jones deserves both an opportunity to play Iron Fist properly, but also a chance to do something better as well.
Let a new guy who isn't weighed down by expectations be Danny.
One Strip! One Strip!Here goes the rumor mill
, again. Or at the least, using old quotes to stir up more debate.
Edited by dmcreif on Sep 1st 2021 at 2:10:25 PM
Okey Dokey!Aye, it might be Cox trying to cover up his possible Daredevil cameo (or not) when the film comes out. We saw something similar in Loki (2021) in regards to a certain character, so the same thing could happen in No Way Home.
Edited by Chrononaut70 on Sep 1st 2021 at 11:27:08 AM

See this is why Iron Fist needs to be recasted.
I’m open to Daredevil, Luke, or Jessica’s actors reprising the role.
But Jones, no. The role’s too toxic and should be wiped clean.
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 31st 2021 at 4:08:30 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."