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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
We have to remember that Waldron & Co covered up Loki's story very well — as it turns out, there was not a single reliable rumor before the series release, and they purposefully edited the trailers so that viewers would think another thing is happening. He wrote this one too. Could be another cover-up.
On the other hand, the filming has ended (bar possible reshoots) and there is no big name to play the villain. An unknown actor, Adam Hugill
plays Rintrah who was previously rumored to be The Heavy. And a similarly unknown actor is rumored to have voiced Shuma-Gorath. So it is logical to assume someone we know well is the antagonist.
Edited by Asherinka on Aug 27th 2021 at 12:58:13 PM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.Wasn't Nightmare announced to be the antag of Mo M?
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:20:14 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."That was back when Derrickson was still involved, now the rumored villain is Shuma-Gorath.
Also, only really posted the Wanda thing 'cause I figured someone else would eventually, kinda thought more people would be hyped about the possible WbN thing.
Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:22:05 AM
That Nightmare rumor was very long ago. Then there was an abundance of leaks stating that the new villain Waldron & Raimi brought together is Shuma-Gorath with Rintrah as The Heavy. I updated my post above, check it.
Now they say Shuma-Gorath is indeed the Greater-Scope Villain, but The Heavy is Wanda herself.
Edited by Asherinka on Aug 27th 2021 at 12:58:41 PM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.![]()
It wasn't a rumor, it was Word of God.
The Shuma Gorath stuff, on the other hand, does appear to be the result of rumormongering.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:41:35 AM
Check all the last threads on this reddit
<- more reliable
And this (possible spoilers)
<- not reliable
Edited by Asherinka on Aug 26th 2021 at 6:51:32 PM
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.The source is individual leakers, mostly on twitter, I'm too lazy to link twitter posts when guys on reddit gathered them in one place
Yep, totally, these are all rumors. But when everybody starts writing the same stuff at once, there might be some credence to it. There might be not.
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.I mean, not when all the people writing it are fans who have the same hazy sources (which are, themselves, other fans). Fan theories take off like wildfire, and are easy to gain traction because all they do is tell fans things they want to hear, regardless of whether those things make sense. You can always tell whether a theory like that has merit not just from how much its getting posted, but who is posted it in bulk. Not even WeGotThisCovered is touching this yet (though, admittedly, then we would know its a lie).
Heck, before being the expert in Dr. Strange's plot the guy who posted the first reddit post you sourced was seems to have mostly just posted memes on Star Wars forums.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:48:11 AM
I mean, I really, really love Shuma Gorath and have long suspected that he might be the antagonist of the final Dr. Strange movie (before Kang was revealed to be the new MCU Big Bad, I was thinking it could be Shuma as well), but him being in this movie given what we know of it thus far doesn't make a lot of sense (yet). Let alone "Shuma AND Wanda AND the Illuminati AND Evil Professor X etc."
Looking over the linked theory, it looks like what happened is someone watched a couple episodes of What If (despite that show being explicitly non-canon) and threw all the stuff they saw in that series together with the "they're going to cosmic retcon in the Fox X-Men movies!" (despite Disney top brass being pretty clear about wanting to do their own take on the property) fan-theories, and passed that off as a leak.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:52:52 AM
The problem with Mordo is that he is strongly against using magic as of the end of the first Doctor Strange film. Why would he team up with an interdimensional entity (let us assume that it is still Nightmare for simplicity sake, its name is really unimportant) that wants to consume our world? He'd likely be against it.
Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.At this point there has been so much magical shenanigans in the world, that I believe Mordo probably got like five wizards in then got bored and retired.
Took one look at the final battle against Thanos with the entire sorcerer order assembled then rolled over back into bed.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 26th 2021 at 11:13:38 AM

Honestly, the way I see it, I think it's more likely there will be some sort of Scarlet Witch Disney Plus show after Multiverse of Madness.
Okey Dokey!