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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#132626: Aug 26th 2021 at 6:14:11 AM

I thought the reason Doctor Strange meddled with the multiverse was because he got distracted by Peter’s objections and thus split the timeline.

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#132627: Aug 26th 2021 at 6:33:53 AM

I think a combination of stuff like wanda and Loki probably already had it strained and you know recreated. So this just was the final nudge that pushed it over.

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#132628: Aug 26th 2021 at 6:54:35 AM

Given that this is supposed to be the final MCU Spider-Man movie before Sony takes him back, I can't help but wonder if these multiversal shenanigans are going to provide some sort of in-universe rationale for Tom Holland's Spider-Man crew to be shunted off into a Sony 'verse.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#132629: Aug 26th 2021 at 7:31:38 AM

[up]nah Spidey has more MCU apparences in this contract yet. At least one team up still to come and they've said after that they're going to negotiate it on a film by film basis.

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#132630: Aug 26th 2021 at 8:27:21 AM

This joke got a new layer added to it, now:

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132631: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:02:51 PM

I just realised the scenes behind the windows are a painted background

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Goku Black
#132632: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:06:58 PM

It's a really old film. Lol.

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#132633: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:10:16 PM

Its likely a deliberate choice to reflect the film's comic book roots

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#132634: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:11:02 PM

Makes me wonder what would happen if the bit in the old Iron Man 1 script that revealed Tony built Doc Ock's arms was actually in the final product.

Would take that Iron Man creates villains up to eleven.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132635: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:12:39 PM

Man looking back on the movies, those fights were pretty good.

Jesus that pumpkin bomb to the face.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 26th 2021 at 12:12:53 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#132636: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:14:08 PM

Yeah, you really felt each blow. And you felt how much pure hatred there was during this fight.

It wasn't clean or "cool", it was a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown, from both sides.

Edited by Forenperser on Aug 26th 2021 at 9:14:17 PM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#132637: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:18:36 PM

Jeeeez, that wall drop was brutal.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#132638: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:20:41 PM

The original trilogy does fight scenes better than most MCU things.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132639: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:21:49 PM

Peter always goes down swinging the hardest out of anyone.

His life’s a Goddamn gauntlet.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#132640: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:26:35 PM

Hell, for all the shit Spider-Man 3 always gets, it also had some extremely well done scenes.

This one for example is still one of the most emotional ones I have ever seen in a Superhero flick, period. And it's without any spoken words, to boot.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132641: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:29:09 PM

> Jeeeez, that wall drop was brutal.

I definately don't remember the scene being that brutal,it might be because whenever they aired on TV they edited the scene down

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 26th 2021 at 7:29:48 PM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#132642: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:31:42 PM

Spidey vs Doc Ock is probably the best fight. tongue

Edited by alekos23 on Aug 26th 2021 at 10:32:44 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132643: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:32:57 PM

I really love Sandman, and while his story was one of the better things about Spider-Man 3 he still deserved better.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132644: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:34:28 PM

Heh Peter left Aunt May behind. [lol]

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 26th 2021 at 12:34:45 PM

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#132645: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:45:00 PM

Awesome fight scene, but I’m very amused Doc Ock’s thought process for going to the bank was “I need money to legally buy the parts for my lethal fusion death machine”. Did he expect to just walk into Radio Shack next with sacks full of gold? [lol]

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#132646: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:49:54 PM

[up] Black Market. Criminals get illegal things on there all the time.

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#132647: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:51:54 PM

True, but you think he’d consider first just robbing the parts. Which is probably what he ended up doing anyway since he didn’t get away with any of the money.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#132648: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:53:31 PM

He did actually carry a sack or two away in the end, if I remember correctly. And maybe all the parts just weren't available to steal in New York.

Edited by Forenperser on Aug 26th 2021 at 9:53:57 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132649: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:53:40 PM

Holy shit the original Vulture car-ride.

Man Norman is brutal as always.

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Vault Dweller
#132650: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:54:23 PM

[up]x8

I love the train fight scene as much as anyone else. But me being a Rail Enthusiast, I have a hard time shaking off the whole fact that they're clearly in Chicago, not New York. Case in point.

Awesome fight scene, but I’m very amused Doc Ock’s thought process for going to the bank was “I need money to legally buy the parts for my lethal fusion death machine”. Did he expect to just walk into Radio Shack next with sacks full of gold?

I think they felt gold coins worked better visually then lots of dollar bills raining.

Edited by dmcreif on Aug 26th 2021 at 3:55:03 PM

Okey Dokey!

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