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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132601: Aug 25th 2021 at 8:12:22 PM

Probably not. Chadwick Boseman is already dead and Marvel would want to keep the Black Panther brand alive by having Shuri take up the mantle.

LucyVega23 from Mexico Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#132602: Aug 25th 2021 at 8:57:55 PM

There's one thing I wanna know: Are Doc Ock, Electro and Green Goblin gonna be the same ones from their respective movies or there's gonna be something different in them? Because I don't like what they did with Electro in his movie and I'm really hoping they can at least make him a little better.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132603: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:02:37 PM

In a deleted Instagram post Jamie Foxx said Electro "won't be blue", implying he's a different character, but in a Variety interview Alfred Molina claimed his Ock is the exact same one from the Raimi movies so it flips around for them.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 25th 2021 at 9:02:54 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132604: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:06:57 PM

Okay shit this guy deserves to headline a movie. I mean just imagine, an entire movie centered around stopping a guy who wants to turn people into dinosaurs.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/944.jpg

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#132605: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:09:09 PM

In a deleted Instagram post Jamie Foxx said Electro "won't be blue", implying he's a different character, but in a Variety interview Alfred Molina claimed his Ock is the exact same one from the Raimi movies so it flips around for them.

Assume they are misleading you until proven otherwise.

Okey Dokey!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#132606: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:14:24 PM

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Ah yes. That arc of Wolverine and the X-Men after Logan died where he asked Peter to take his place (and also look for a spy).

I think that's one of the only times Peter's fought Sauron, since he's usually an X-man guy. Then again, that arc deliberately had Spiderman rogues and X-men rogues teaming up.

One Strip! One Strip!
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#132607: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:22:45 PM

Sauron's little bit there is one of my favorite things about that run, along with all the spoofs of the Sinister Six.

If memory serves, bare minimum there's the Sinister Sixty-Six (a bunch of solid-state holograms created by Mojo), All-New Sinister Six (featuring a bunch of absolute d-listers led by Swarm that disbands that same issue), and of course, Sinister's Six (evil X-Men clones created by Sinister).

It just... brings me so much joy.

PizzaDog11 Pizza is my business from closer than you think Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Pizza is my business
#132608: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:24:15 PM

[up][up][up][up] the second best thing about Sauron, after that quote, is that he canonically read Lord of the Rings and thought “Cool name, I’m going to use that”

Edited by PizzaDog11 on Aug 26th 2021 at 2:24:31 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#132609: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:37:00 PM

Maybe it’s still the same Electro, he’s just not blue this time?

Oh God! Natural light!
LucyVega23 from Mexico Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#132610: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:52:29 PM

[up]Here's a picture of him in his civilian form but it's probably fake.

If it's not fake, then based on his looks, it seems that he's going to be a different Electro

Edited by LucyVega23 on Aug 25th 2021 at 9:55:01 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132611: Aug 25th 2021 at 9:57:35 PM

He could be getting a more 616 look along the lines of the version from the Insomniac game.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/electro_from_msm_render_5.png

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LucyVega23 from Mexico Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132613: Aug 25th 2021 at 10:17:52 PM

Ooooh that’s a good one.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LucyVega23 from Mexico Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#132614: Aug 25th 2021 at 10:24:34 PM

But in terms of personality, I hope he's more than just "I want to be seen" or better yet, being a totally different person.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#132615: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:11:47 AM

In a deleted Instagram post Jamie Foxx said Electro "won't be blue", implying he's a different character, but in a Variety interview Alfred Molina claimed his Ock is the exact same one from the Raimi movies so it flips around for them.

I think Karkat has the right idea here. A special effects change, but still supposed to be the same character. Sort of like Hulk.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#132616: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:23:04 AM

If it's supposed to be the same Ock as from Spider-Man 2, they'll have to explain how he's alive again, same with Goblin.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 26th 2021 at 3:23:25 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#132617: Aug 26th 2021 at 12:37:02 AM

Multiverse. This is them, but from a universe where they didnt die.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#132618: Aug 26th 2021 at 1:27:50 AM

I'm kind of curious why Strange would need to meddle with the Multiverse in order to make everyone forget Peter is Spiderman - there isn't some sort of mind-wiping spell?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#132619: Aug 26th 2021 at 1:49:43 AM

It may be more of a reality alteration spell that makes it as if the last bit of Far from Home never happened. But since it's a spell that screws with reality itself, messing that up opens up the Multiverse.

Disgusted, but not surprised
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#132620: Aug 26th 2021 at 1:50:15 AM

It would be a very Rick and Morty solution to the problem for Strange to just find a parallel universe where everything is the same except people don't know that Peter is Spider-Man, and then get rid of that universe's Peter and Stephen and take their places. XD

Edited by GNinja on Aug 26th 2021 at 8:50:43 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
Cross (Don’t ask)
#132621: Aug 26th 2021 at 1:51:56 AM

[up][up][up]Mind-wiping would only deal with the surface level problems of people knowing his identity since there's still physical evidence connecting the two.

Edited by Cross on Aug 26th 2021 at 5:10:20 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132622: Aug 26th 2021 at 1:54:12 AM

I assume changing the entire populations memory and presumably includes scrubbing all info off all digital and physical knowledge of Peter’s identity requires a powerful-ass spell.

Yeah that’s something to think about, Strange isn’t just wiping memories but he also has to outright change visual, audio, and paper recordings of anything that connects Peter Parker to Spider-Man. It’s a pretty big change.

For instance all the videos and interviews JJ made. That has to be changed in some manner or straight up erased from reality.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 26th 2021 at 1:55:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#132623: Aug 26th 2021 at 4:23:38 AM

Fun fact, the concept of Peter having his identity revealed to the world and it being the status quo until the world gets their memory erased was an idea a writer had before Civil war and OMD were even a thing. The solution to the public identity was Purple Man being hooked into a machine and he wipes the memory from public knowledge.

One wonders if MCU Purple Man can pull off that trick.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 26th 2021 at 7:23:50 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132624: Aug 26th 2021 at 4:25:47 AM

What sort of lame name is 'The Purple man'

-googles-

Oh!You mean Kilgrave

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PizzaDog11 Pizza is my business from closer than you think Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Pizza is my business
#132625: Aug 26th 2021 at 5:28:15 AM

[up][up]Funnily enough, they used that ten years later to do the same for Daredevil


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