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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132427: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:55:20 PM

Y'know, not for nothing, I wouldn't mind an MCU Mysterio vs Dr. Strange fight. For all that Strange has real magic, he would still need some kind of spell to see through Mysterio's illusions, and we would still get the cool visuals of Strange using magic to take on an army of drones.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132428: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:55:58 PM

“Your name is Otto Octavius… Bohner?”

[nja]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:56:11 AM

alanh Since: May, 2010
#132429: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:10:55 PM

Me too. [nja] I was going to say that Mysterio recruited the entire Bohner family.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#132430: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:16:33 PM

Did anyone else notice that Doctor Strange was acting a little weird? Sort of a little devilous. Especially early in the trailer. Any chance it might be Mephisto?

Edited by Bullman on Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:17:13 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#132431: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:16:57 PM

Just saw the trailer.

HELP I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK THIS IS ALL INSANE

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#132432: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:47:38 PM

Okay, now that I've calmed down a bit, I do want to say that I'm honestly not too upset that Strange kinda screwed things up and also had a hand in causing the multiverse. He's been a sorcerer for a little over two or three years at this point (discounting the parts where he was y'know, dead), compared to the decades, if not centuries of experience other Masters of the Mystic Arts have had over the years. So him making a massive error just to help someone and/or show off in a moment of weakness doesn't seem too farfetched in my opinion.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132433: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:55:08 PM

It should be noted that Peter messed up the spell by diverting Strange’s concentration so presumably it would have been perfectly safe had it gone as intended.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#132434: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:59:06 PM

[up] At the same time, Wong implies it was a dangerous spell and that Strange knew the risks, but let his cockiness and/or desire to help Peter get in the way of moral judgement. So it just goes to show that Doctor Strange isn't a perfect person, even after his Character Development. Which I'm okay with.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132435: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:17:04 PM

Granted considering Peter’s situation, his life effectively ruined because of Mysterio Strange probability figured the potential risks were worth it since it’s solving a worthy problem. It’s not like he’s using a world altering spell for minor reasons, he’s trying to give Peter his life back here which makes it very understandable.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:17:11 AM

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#132436: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:29:09 PM

I'm already seeing people on Twitter going crazy and speculating that Matt Murdock is in the trailer just because of ONE shot of a pair of arms in the scene where Peter is being interrogated by the police.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#132437: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:33:38 PM

[up] I heard rumors that Charlie Cox had to come back to the set of this film for supposed reshoots, but they seem really spotty so I wouldn't put my foot on it yet. It would be real cool if Matt Murdock did make a cameo here though. I've never watched Daredevil or any of the other Netflix TV shows, but it would be nice to acknowledge them in some capacity like they did with Jarvis in Endgame.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#132438: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:37:55 PM

Okay so that's happening.

Ngl, kind of mixed.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#132439: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:54:06 PM

Already seeing people thinking that The Lizard is gonna be in this one.

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Deadly Vu!
#132440: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:05:31 AM

Finally saw the new Spider Man trailer.

Err... not sure I like that they're going with a Reset Button plot with everyone forgetting that Peter is Spider-Man. I am seriously hoping the spell gets undone in some way.

I saw several people though speculate that it could be a hallucination created by Strange to teach Parker a lesson. I'd be kinda all for that... although I'm not sure how the multiverse would figure into all that.

Speaking of the multiverse, is this supposed to be before or after Multiverse of Madness?

Honestly, I find Dr. Strange being in a Spider Man film kinda funny, since, back when the first Strange movie was in production there were rumors that Peter Parker would be in it, all because Tom Holland was visiting the set one day.

Edited by Brandon on Aug 24th 2021 at 12:05:48 PM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132441: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:32:13 AM

wild mass guessMy theory for what happens with Peter’s identity at the end is everyone forgets but he publicly reveals his identity anyway, so the world knows he’s Spider-Man but doesn’t remember Mysterio framing him.wild mass guess

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#132442: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:35:10 AM

Speaking of the multiverse, is this supposed to be before or after Multiverse of Madness?

Presumably before - for one this sets it up, and secondly wherever Wong goes it seems he ends up showing up in Shang Chi, which I am guessing overlaps with this one at least partly.

Talking of Multiverse of Madness, it's pretty funny that two Raimi villains show up in this film just before he makes his MCU debut.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132443: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:45:33 AM

I hope Peter does find a way to get the public off his back about being Spider-Man.

See this is why secret identities are necessary. People like Tony and Steve, they don’t need it their already public figures. But for Peter people knowing who is is nothing but a hassle and obstruction to living life.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#132444: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:34:24 AM

Tony was already basically a celebrity anyway so it wasn't a huge upheaval, Steve didn't have family or friends outside of SHIELD/other "out" Superheroes to be affected.

It's actually interesting that it's taken the MCU this long to really delve into the superhero Vs civilian life question*

  • Well Daredevil on Netflix did it but that's ambiguously canon now

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#132445: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:38:01 AM

It seems that a lot of people are getting it wrong. Strange does not create the Multiverse. He breaks the boundaries and pulls the Sinister Six from their realities to "our" reality (the MCU). Traversing the Multiverse is supposed to be hard, that's the entire purpose of America Chavez character from Multiverse of Madness. She can move between realities with ease. That is also supposedly what Wanda does in that movie. She will accidentally break the boundaries after tampering with the Darkhold, but on a larger scale. Either between several "normal" realities, or between "our" reality and the Chaos Dimension.

PS Sorry for the rant, but getting the lore wrong is my Berserk Button :-)

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 24th 2021 at 12:17:15 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#132446: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:42:37 AM

I wonder is Strange is gonna be the MCU's new Tony, messing things up for others. [lol]

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#132447: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:44:03 AM

Quick, we need another Sherlock actor to ruin the MCU.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#132448: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:51:31 AM

Would Hugh Laurie be acceptable? He did play Gregory House, a character very much inspired by Sherlock Holmes.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#132449: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:55:55 AM

[up]I would love to see Hugh Laurie in the MCU

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Rorian Dark Lord of Falun Copper Mine Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
Dark Lord of Falun Copper Mine
#132450: Aug 24th 2021 at 1:57:02 AM

A teenager calling a adult by her/his first name is very common here in Sweden.

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