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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132376: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:11:29 PM

I mean what teenager calls an adult by their first name really?

That implies equality which they are not age-wise.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#132377: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:12:49 PM

It's a pity the tentacle design of Ock seems to have changed from his Raimi days (which they looked more copper-based and had a more obviously practical effects basis rather than pure CGI) but still THE DOCTOR IS IN, FELLAS. THE EIGHT-LIMBED GOAT.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#132378: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:13:36 PM

Ohoho! This is a neat concept, although having Strange's spell unlock the multiverse in this story is a little weird considering that we already have Loki setting it up. I also really like the callbacks to Doctor Strange in the visuals. He's definitely the Sorcerer Supreme now, not just a novice wizard playing around with magic.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#132379: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:15:14 PM

I am...mixed on Dr. Strange being the one to do this absurdly dangerous spell, but on the other hand, this looks like it'd be a good semi-kinda-sorta-adaptation of One More Day? And more Molina Ock and Defoe Goblin is welcome.

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#132380: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:17:21 PM

[up][up] Not really unlocking the multiverse. He's really sucking in others from different universes.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132381: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:17:50 PM

[up][up] I think they're alleviating that by not necessarily having what is happening here be the multiverse, specifically. Strange namedrops it in terms of the kinds of magic he's using, but the rest of the exposition we get seems to imply that what's happening here is that they changed the past (something that, admittedly, they still wouldn't be allowed to do with the TVA still around) which created these myriad new villains in addition to all sorts of other changes to Peter's life. Flashpoint-esque, essentially. They didn't delve into the multiverse so much as, effectively, transform their timeline into another one.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:19:17 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#132382: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:17:55 PM

I'll admit that I never made it to the One More Day arc in the comics, but it seems to have been extremely controversial. I wonder if the writers know what they're in for.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132383: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:18:51 PM

The MCU has a habit of saving crappy comic storylines. I remember when Civil War was coming out, everyone was curious about how the hell they were going to make than not a pile of shit, and they managed it.

I guess this means we should look forward to the Clone Saga, too.

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#132384: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:19:17 PM

Dafoe was the perfect actor for Norman Osborn, but for Green Goblin’s look I hope that this time we get the classic green elf in a purple outfit look instead of the Power Ranger armor again.

The prosthetics test they did for the original Raimi film looked pretty great.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:19:51 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132385: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:19:30 PM

[up]x3 - It’s the barest essence of the idea, rather than any sort of strict adaptation. No selling marriages to Satan.

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:19:44 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132386: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:19:51 PM

[up] Maybe he will. I've seen people gushing about Electro's comics accurate lightining, for instance.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#132387: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:22:27 PM

I'll admit that I never made it to the One More Day arc in the comics, but it seems to have been extremely controversial. I wonder if the writers know what they're in for.

What happened there was, Peter made a deal with Mephisto where he gave up his marriage to Mary Jane in exchange for Mephisto saving Aunt May's life.

That's an oversimplification of events, but it's the Cliff Notes.

Okey Dokey!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#132388: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:23:15 PM

Oh my god it's Alfred Molina

Uni cat
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#132389: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:23:35 PM

I guess in a way, this is Doctor Strange 1.5, especially with Sam Raimi's interpretations of Gobby and Doc Ock in the mix.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132390: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:23:55 PM

If there's one thing that annoys me is I guess this being the third Spidey movie with heavy influence from another hero. Doctor Strange is a fun choice sure but I do want a movie that is just about Spider-Man.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#132391: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:25:09 PM

[up] Isn't that part of the deal between Sony and Marvel Studios?

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#132392: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:27:35 PM

Random thought. If the Doc Oc we see is literally the Spider-Man 2 Doc Oc...then there is a chance he might actually be a good guy in the film given that Spider-Man 2 ended with him realizing he screwed up and cleaning up his own mess with a Heroic Sacrifice.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132393: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:28:20 PM

[up][up][up] As long as Strange is more of a side character in Peter's story, I'm okay with it. I've been hoping for us to get a Strange / Spidey film, what with the team-up's historical signif

If what it looks like is happening is happening, this does stand to be more of a Spider-Man piece than Dr. Strange 1.5 (which is something I as well was worried about). The story we're seeing in the trailer, at the very least, seems very focused on Peter's world and how it's changed, specifically. It's a Bad Present story, it looks like. Strange feels more like catalyst for Peter's story here than Peter feels like a vehicle to Strange's.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:28:34 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132394: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:28:28 PM

[up][up][up] Wait thats because of a contract thing?

Is that true?

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:28:39 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#132395: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:28:35 PM

[up]X6

I agree with you on one hand, but we also have 5 movies that were just about Spiderman, and with the series now tossing in the multiverse, the events of those movies are now vaguely in canon. Plus, the whole point of the MCU Peter is that he's now a part of this bigger world.

Not saying I don't kinda agree with you, but since they are now kinda retconning in the villains from the old movies, you could say that Peter has had his solo adventures already in universe via the other movies.

That being said:

<points at Strange and Peter> YOU BOTH FUCKED UP! WHY ARE YOU SO DAMNED STUPID!?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:29:18 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#132396: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:30:32 PM

Wong's gonna be so pissed when he gets back from whatever he's getting up to. ...A spiritual pilgrimage or something?

The legend has returned.
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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#132398: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:31:43 PM

If Strange keeps doing crazy shit like this it'll make Mordo's villainy all the more justified whenever he shows up again.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#132399: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:32:49 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] I believe so, MCU Spidey solo movies needed a MCU character to tag along to emphasize they are in a shared universe or something like that.

Edited by Hawkeye86 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:33:34 AM

You and I remember Budapest very differently
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132400: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:33:54 PM

Huh I now recalled a comment I made on the Suicide Squad thread criticizing how Marvel hasn't made the setting very "casually super".

I might take back my words now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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