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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#132326: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:23:32 AM

[up][up]That place has little to do with either Iron Fist or Shang-Chi directly, though it makes sense for this movie if they're going with a more mystical tone.

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
_(o)_
#132327: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:24:18 AM

This is a random question but how do we decide when a marvel movie gets its own forum and when do we just discuss it here with the spoiler tags on?

The Final Name
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132328: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:24:49 AM

Speaking of Shang I recently noticed a video with a title of a quote supposedly from Simu Liu around the lines of “There are no Asian role models.”

Is it another Brie Larson where he said something that people are grossly taking out of context?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132329: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:28:03 AM

[up]IIRC it was him pushing back on the idea that the movie was an experiment rather than a genuine attempt at representation and everyone took it out of context since they want the film to bomb.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#132330: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:32:44 AM

[up][up][up] Generally movie-specific spoiler threads are set up when the movie has it's first public release.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#132331: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:34:27 AM

ehhhhhhhhhh [nja]

No real rule though, some threads on here have been around since the film was first announced (ie no director or cast attached) or when the trailer comes out. I figured it was almost time anyway. [lol]

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 23rd 2021 at 1:34:59 PM

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#132332: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:52:55 AM

[up][up][up]Wasn't the whole "it's an experiment" quote taken out of context? Or is this a different quote?

You and I remember Budapest very differently
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132333: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:56:57 AM

The dumb thing about the video I saw is that it showed images from from various classic martial arts movies to disparage Liu’s “quote” and my reaction was “These are all from the fucking 70-80’s. You can’t find someone from this century?!”

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#132334: Aug 23rd 2021 at 12:22:07 PM

Photos have now leaked of Andrew Garfield and Toby Macguire on a blue-screen set, both in costume and unmasked

Edited by Zarius on Aug 23rd 2021 at 12:22:30 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#132335: Aug 23rd 2021 at 12:23:37 PM

Marvel’s Eternals Actor Barry Keoghan Assaulted in Galway.

    The article 

Independent Ireland is reporting that actor Barry Keoghan required hospital treatment after he was the victim of an assault in Galway.

Keoghan is one of the stars of the upcoming Marvel film Eternals and the DC film The Batman. He was reportedly found with serious facial injuries outside the city’s G Hotel last weekend. After being found, he was rushed by ambulance to Galway University Hospital, where he was treated for his injuries, including cuts to his face, and subsequently released.

According to some of the locals asked about the incident, “[Keoghan] was spotted around town a bit. He said he was down to see a few people he had become friends with when he was abroad. It was known he was staying up in the G Hotel, which is one of the poshest hotels in the city. But no one heard anything about any assault or anything and it was obviously kept very quiet.”

While there is surely a chance that this was just an assault done with no knowledge of who Keoghan is, I will just say that his face is fairly recognizable and he is considered one of Ireland’s biggest rising stars. He was just in The Green Knight and is going to be in two Blockbuster films within the next year, both of which are from really popular IP (well, Marvel itself, not the Eternals).

It is also noted in the article that this attack follows one against Irish Olympian Jack Woolley, a taekwondo fighter, who was hospitalized after he was beaten up in Dublin city centre. He also required medical attention for his injuries.

For Keoghan, it is good news that the injuries were not serious, but it is still haunting that he was just trying to visit friends and ended up in this situation, especially with touring coming up fairly soon. I hope he will be able to rest and take time off to deal with the aftercare mentally and emotionally from what happened.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#132336: Aug 23rd 2021 at 12:33:18 PM

Okay I read that as if he passed away so wow got really scared for a sec there.

At least its nothing too serious.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132337: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:14:07 PM

Regarding No Way Home, if Daredevil does actually make a cameo appearance as Spider-Man's lawyer, then it will reserve as a reintroduction/continuation of the MCU Defenders shows for the Multiverse Saga and he's rumoured to show up in Hawkeye alongside Kingpin, since Echo is in that show. And the leaked trailer does show us a man with red-tinted glasses and a business suit that matches up with Matt/DD's physical description.

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:19:24 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#132338: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:15:25 PM

It will probably be Broad strokes at best though or a reboot with the same actors

Edited by miraculous on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:15:38 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132339: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:17:14 PM

I think it's going to be the former. The Defenders (2017) iterations of the characters are far too popular to recast and Dardevil's appearance will be a cameo with no reference to the prior series but not exactly Canon Discontinuity since it has the same actor (Charlie Cox).

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:18:56 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#132340: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:20:44 PM

Wonder how they'll handle Kinpin in the Hawkeye show than

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132341: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:22:06 PM

Maybe Kingpin will be a secondary antagonist to Clint Barton and Kate Bishop. Also, when and if the MCU Defenders shows are revived, they will deal with the protagonists' lives after the Snap/the Blip.

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:23:49 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132342: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:23:01 PM

At this point Sony has to release the trailer. Otherwise Cinema Con’s presentation is going to end in a chorus of boos.

Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132343: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:24:56 PM

They'll likely delay it a bit because of what has happened. Then again, because the trailer has already been leaked, they're going to avoid releasing it on CinemaCon.

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:28:30 AM

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#132344: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:39:43 PM

It will probably be Broad strokes at best though or a reboot with the same actors

I noted a while back that there might be some complications if this is true.

Okey Dokey!
Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132345: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:42:46 PM

The Netflix MCU shows will be the first non-Marvel Studios properties to be reintroduced. Then after it, there's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and a few other potential candidates (i.e. the Hulu shows).

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#132346: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:45:55 PM

Stop getting my hopes up.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132347: Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:48:17 PM

It's just speculation for what might happen and not what is going to happen.

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 4:50:31 AM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#132348: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:00:26 PM

I can't imagine why they would delay a trailer because it got leaked. Doing so would be spiteful and not much else.

Trailer leaks if anything tend to compel an earlier release, since it allows people who were avoiding the leak out of respect for the filmmakers to see the trailer and participate in the discussion. That's exactly what happened with AoU's first trailer.

Chrononaut70 Since: Dec, 2020
#132349: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:03:20 PM

The completed trailer will probably be mostly the same as the leaked one except with the SFX and CGI completed.

Edited by Chrononaut70 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:16:32 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132350: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:03:37 PM

The special effects for the leaked trailer are apparently unfinished, so unless it’s an early work print, the trailer can’t be released earlier by Sony because it’s still being assembled.


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