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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#132301: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:03:35 AM

To note it was being widely rumored that Sony was going to drop the trailer during their CinemaCon panel tonight, so this whole leak would effectively confirm that I think. Hopefully still the case, lol.

Just looking at leak details because I didn't get a chance to see it the idea of the MCU doing an adaptation of One More Day and/or One Moment in Time is fucking bonkers, and merging it with a live-action take on Spider-Verse is even more so. The whole point of OMD was to pull a giant Cosmic Retcon within the prime Marvel timeline (and the point of OMIT to explain said retcon within the new timeline), so I now have to wonder if that is the goal: to use multiverse shenanigans to fundamentally rewrite Spidey's place in the "Sacred Timeline", maybe to include pre-existing versions of these previous characters, maybe even to retroactively canonize the SUMC into the MCU.

Edited by Watchtower on Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:10:32 AM

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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Funny but not helpful
#132303: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:53:43 AM

Re T’Challa talking down Thanos

It makes sense. T’Challa’s whole space thing is explicitly doing a Robin Hood. Relocating resources so they can do more good

Thanos’ whole thing or the claimed justification of the whole thing is the lack of resources.

T’Challa probably convinced him that it wasn’t the quantity so much as the distribution. Or at least to give it a try.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#132304: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:54:27 AM

[up][up][up] I don't think it's going to go as far as that. But I could see it being a way to quickly bring a multiversal Sinister Six into the Spider-Man corner of the MCU in one fell swoop instead of doing more gradual build up.

[up] That's about what I think. It does rely on this Thanos being more reasonable/less stubborn and prideful than Mainline Thanos but it's a What If so that does fall within plausibility. Main Thanos would probably not be convinced as that would mean admitting he was wrong but this is a different Thanos.

Edited by jakobitis on Aug 23rd 2021 at 1:57:01 PM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#132305: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:34:06 AM

[up][up][up]Hell yeah.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#132306: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:02:38 AM

Meanwhile some people who saw the leaked proto-trailer are saying that Strange would not have tampered with something he does not understand and is out of character, or is deliberately trying to teach Peter a lesson. I feel that future discussions will be lit.

I think it is totally fine. Reckless driving, reckless spellcasting, it adds up.

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132307: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:11:12 AM

in before its actually Mephisto all along!

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#132308: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:23:16 AM

So I've heard that Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx are returning as Doc Ock and Electro? Bzuh? Is this like with JJJ or do we have explicit multiverse shenanigans going on here?

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#132310: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:35:12 AM

Well based on the leaked trailer, Doc Ock is almost certainly in the movie, but I can't speak for Jamie Foxx.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#132311: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:38:53 AM

Assuming this is true, between Far From Home having Tony decide Peter should inherit a glasses-operated Kill Sat and Stephen fucking up a really dangerous spell while trying to help erase people's memories, I'm getting a little sick of the MCU Spider-Man films making the rest of the MCU's characters act like total irresponsible idiots just to facilitate the plot.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:41:18 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#132312: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:39:52 AM

[up] Photos also emerged on twitter along with the trailer that revealed Foxx, though he looked fairly normal

Edited by Zarius on Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:40:05 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#132313: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:45:50 AM

I mean…with Tony that’s kind of his thing and he’s shown to have done it before. Including picking a fight with a terrorist on TV. Or making Ultron, or he’ll his brilliant idea of Iron Man suits across the globe.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:47:04 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132314: Aug 23rd 2021 at 8:48:05 AM

you have no idea tempting it is out a fake spoiler like

"OMG Namor what you doing in New york!"

just because

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#132315: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:07:58 AM

[up]x4 See, see, it is already upon us!

Where is Iron Man to blame for everything when you need him :-) Seriously though, why any time a hero messes things up, people get angry? Why are we so intolerant of the mistakes of others? *thinking*

They say that a driver is most likely to get into a car accident in the second or third year of driving, when they alreadly have enough confidence, but still not enough experience. I suspect the same is true for using magic.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:21:56 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132316: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:48:01 AM

While the country eagerly awaits the Spider-Man Crisis on Infinite Webs Giant All Out Monsters Attack trailer, the reviews for Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings are pouring in and the verdict appears to be "Meh."

Hollywood Reporter calls it "Flawed but fun".

The Guardian gives it a 3 out of 5.

Collider says it struggles to tell a captivating story.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132317: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:49:22 AM

well darn,they tried dang it they tried

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#132318: Aug 23rd 2021 at 9:59:51 AM

An impressive 94 on Rotten Tomatoes though!

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132319: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:00:56 AM

[up]Huh, the RT score wasn’t up when I looked.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132320: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:01:26 AM

The movie just premiered. Give it time for all the reviews to come in. Iron Man 3 was also in the high 90s in its first week and then dropped to a 79.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:03:26 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#132321: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:25:04 AM

Some more positive reviews are in there such a 4/5 from Empire Magazine.

None of the reviews are outright bad. At worst it’s called flawed.

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#132322: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:37:52 AM

It was 86 when I saw it this morning. That's actually a good sign. It's very rare in my experience that the score jumps at that much. I'm willing to bet it'll end at somewhere in the high 80s.

You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#132323: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:40:46 AM

Today is Wanda and Vision's second pre-anniversary. smile

Okey Dokey!
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#132324: Aug 23rd 2021 at 10:54:53 AM

That Empire review mentioned the fantasy realm of the hidden magical city of Ta Lo and trailers have revealed at least one dragon is involved somehow.

Are they compositing Shang with Iron Fist or is this established lore? I'm not really up to date with the comics version of Shang.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#132325: Aug 23rd 2021 at 11:16:37 AM

Foxx, though he looked fairly normal

inb4 boner joke


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