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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132076: Aug 21st 2021 at 2:40:41 AM

Ramin Djawadi wrote music for the Eternals. He wrote music for my two favourite TV shows, Game of Thrones and Westworld

And Pacific Rim!

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 21st 2021 at 2:41:33 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#132077: Aug 21st 2021 at 3:47:05 AM

Damn, that's a fantastic resume.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#132078: Aug 21st 2021 at 4:30:32 AM

They've obtained him, and they obtained Robert and Kristen-Anderson Lopez for WandaVision. All in all, some of the best in the business.

In the prior phases, the most notable composer who's work stood out for me was Tyler Bates' work on Guardians.

Okey Dokey!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132079: Aug 21st 2021 at 4:32:24 AM

Adam Warlock should have emerged from his cocoon in time for Guardians 3,right?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
LinkMarioSamus Since: Aug, 2021
#132080: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:15:00 AM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132081: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:16:00 AM

You are correct,nobody here gives a damn about an angry youtuber

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#132082: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:16:20 AM

I, for one, have never heard of him. And it sounds like there's not much reason to hear more about him.

Unoriginalusername3 from Nimmermeer Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#132084: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:23:34 AM

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He's one of those anti-sjw YouTubers right? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#132085: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:24:53 AM

I basically live on reddit and YouTube and I've never heard of him smile So who cares.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 21st 2021 at 5:25:58 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132086: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:26:36 AM

There's a good chance judging from their posts they joined just to promote the guy

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#132087: Aug 21st 2021 at 7:46:24 AM

I really hope there's a scene in Guardians 3 where Drax is just standing perfectly still in the background and no-one notices him, Xenomorph-style.

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
_(o)_
#132088: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:13:31 AM

Damn it. I really wanted to forget that person. He is part of those groups of youtubers that are popular for making hour long videos shitting on every show I like and yet because of that, youtube seems to think that I would like to watch their videos.

Edited by Ohmknight on Aug 21st 2021 at 11:14:07 PM

The Final Name
LinkMarioSamus Since: Aug, 2021
#132089: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:21:46 AM

His criticisms are also very shallow, especially considering how long his critiques are. He showed a montage of Loki getting beaten up a bunch on his Disney+ series and contrasted that with him giving the Avengers a good fight as if that alone is evidence of character assassination. Let's completely ignore context! He also accused Sylvie of usurping the protagonist position from Loki even though he has more screen time and the show clearly revolves around him, not her.

Combined with EFAP, it makes me wonder if Mau Ler actually watches movies or if he keeps pausing every second.

Edited by LinkMarioSamus on Aug 21st 2021 at 8:22:39 AM

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
_(o)_
#132090: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:27:28 AM

[up]Those types of youtubers commonly isolate moments and then critique them without the context given by the story itself.

The Final Name
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#132091: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:31:27 AM

Again, who cares about an angry manchild on You Tube? I don't.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#132094: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:35:14 AM

Every Frame A Pause

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
LinkMarioSamus Since: Aug, 2021
#132095: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:35:26 AM

Every Frame A Pause

I think the problem is I didn't really get into Star Wars until 2018 (and no it was not through the Disney films, good god no), so I just took notice of all that stuff. On that same token, it's annoying how certain people liken Captain Marvel to The Last Jedi when I can't think of a single similarity between both movies past them being Disney tentpoles with female leads that involve outer space. You'd think women are a foreign concept to these people. They bring up characters like Wonder Woman and Ellen Ripley as a counter but then that just makes them seem unaccepting of added female representation in established franchises which is arguably just as bad.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#132096: Aug 21st 2021 at 8:43:39 AM

It’s a tactic to radicalize from what I understand

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
LinkMarioSamus Since: Aug, 2021
#132097: Aug 21st 2021 at 9:57:07 AM

Just something kind of related to bring up, I feel like hype often dictates a work's critical reception on release. Some good examples include the likes of Terminator 3, Superman Returns, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and Prometheus having Rotten Tomatoes scores in the 70s despite all being very contentious - I get the feeling critics were just happy that those franchises came back in the first place after such a hiatus.

By that same token I feel like maybe a tiny handful of critics often praise an MCU movie just for being an MCU movie, which I think is a testament to how the MCU has seemingly gotten a rhythm going that tends to please critics and general audiences. I say this mostly because I thought Captain Marvel and Joker were of comparable quality (both 6-7/10 movies IMO), and if you slash 10% off of Captain Marvel then the two movies have around the same RT score. So maybe a tenth of all reviews for any given MCU movie will automatically be positive just because it has the same things that work for the franchise in general.

I also feel like more than ever before reviews, both professional and not, have become more agenda-driven lately. And I mean far more than just political agendas.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#132098: Aug 21st 2021 at 10:40:20 AM

[up] There's a reason why the most professional and respected of critics at least attempt to defy the Reviews Are the Gospel trope.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#132099: Aug 21st 2021 at 10:51:01 AM

One of the funniest “wow is nothing not political in this world anymore” moments of last year was seeing that a PMC that tried to instigate a coup in Venezuela was a fan of one of those hater Youtube channels.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#132100: Aug 21st 2021 at 11:09:16 AM

[up]x3 Solution: just use IMDB user ratings. They are much more reliable than Rotten Tomatoes critics/user scores.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 21st 2021 at 9:09:31 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.

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