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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#131751: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:08:56 AM

"Non-sentient matter" is a weird way of putting it. So she can manipulate anything non-living, and also plants, too?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#131752: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:10:14 AM

I’ll admit that Sersi is who I’m here for

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131753: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:21:46 AM

[up][up]That sounds like a mixup, really. I think maybe the person writing that may have just gotten it a little wrong as opposed to that being an official description.

Everything else I could find about the character seems more in line with her just manipulating inanimate matter.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131754: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:30:21 AM

And here are the other known powers.

Ikaris: One of the most powerful Eternals, with the ability to fly and shoot beams of light from his eyes.

Kingo: Bollywood star and also has the power to manipulate energy with his hands. "To capture Kingo's joyful, effortless fight style, he went back and watched old Errol Flynn movies and some of the original Zorro films — "just a lot of old school Hollywood stars whose characters really enjoyed fighting.""

Sprite: No mention of her abilities.

Phastos: A brilliant inventor with a mind for creating weapons and technology.

Makkari: Super-fast, doesn't skip leg day.

Druig: The ability to manipulate other people's thoughts. Yeah that sounds kinda evil.

Gilgamesh: Extremely powerful and the strongest warrior of Eternals. Prefers to use his fists in battle, often taking out enemies with a single punch.

Ajak: Stoic and powerful leader, who also has the ability to heal.

Thena: "The acrobatic Thena is one of the group's elite warriors, and she can manifest weapons out of thin air.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 18th 2021 at 10:32:10 AM

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#131755: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:32:08 AM

Gotta to be totally honest Eternals sounds like it would work better as a TV show,it just a feeling I have

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#131756: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:37:40 AM

Agreed. It's giving me Raya vibes with how large the cast of characters is.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131757: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:39:35 AM

Sprite can do illusions.

A lot of this information has already been available in other places, it seems like now they just wanted to do a piece that put it all in one place.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131758: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:44:57 AM

I don't why but I feel Phastos being the mechanic might means he die first.

Generally how thse stories begin is the with the death of the one of the "unkillable Gods" kickstarting a murder mystery that leads to more death.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 18th 2021 at 10:45:14 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131759: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:47:11 AM

I feel like Gilgamesh will be one of the first to be killed off too.

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#131760: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:52:34 AM

I guess several of them will die and Ikaris is the secret Big Bad. Druig is way too obvious for a villain.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 18th 2021 at 8:58:44 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#131761: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:52:52 AM

[up][up][up]Phastos is also black and MLM.

Don't know if that makes him even more of a target for Disney given their...history :-)

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 18th 2021 at 12:53:00 PM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131762: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:55:49 AM

I expect Ajak to be one of the first to go, for better or worse.

Especially given the brief synopsis we have so far.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#131763: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:56:09 AM

I dunno, has Disney really been doing Bury Your Gays? A lot of Word of Gay, yes, but they're always heroic and live to the end because Disney is performatively woke enough not to toe over that particular line. They'd rather minimize them than remove them.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#131764: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:58:21 AM

[up][up]Me too, and Makkari as well.

Edit:Nvm, I missed the part that says she is deaf. No way are they killing her early.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 18th 2021 at 9:01:37 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131765: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:58:47 AM

[up][up]Yeah, the gays don’t get killed, they get stuck in a corner.

That’s a little better, right?

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 18th 2021 at 1:58:55 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131766: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:59:26 AM

in the corner facing the closet usually

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131767: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:01:47 AM

Ikaris could be the one die first.

He is the leader and the whitest white guy so he might get Duke'd like in GI Joe Retaliation.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131768: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:05:41 AM

He's not the leader though. Ajak is.

Plus it's been stated that Ikaris/Sersi is a significant part of the story. While that doesnt preclude his death entirely it does seem to render it happening early on rather unlikely.

Edited by ArthurEld on Aug 18th 2021 at 11:06:43 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#131769: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:09:41 AM

While the MCU doesn't really follow the comic romances, does anyone know how the Ikaris & Sersi & Black Knight thing goes down? If it goes down at all?

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#131770: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:10:08 AM

My money's on Druig being a Red Herring, or at least not the Big Bad of this film. I think this film's main villain is going to be Sprite.

Not only because of (spoilers for a comic run from a decade and a half ago) Neil Gaiman's Eternals miniseries, but because Sprite's whole schtick is that they are eternally a child. Which is hard to do when you have a real-life actor playing them who is inevitably going to age up. Obviously digital deaging is a thing, but... dunno.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131771: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:12:28 AM

[up][up][up] Right, Ikaris just really feels like your standard white leader guy. I keep thinking hes gonna bite it early.

Actually the Eternals do have a resurrective immortality thing going on. Wonder how thats gonna play into this. Maybe the bad guy somehow shuts it off putting the Eternals at risk of Final Death.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 18th 2021 at 11:14:00 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131772: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:19:13 AM

[up][up][up]There really is no Ikaris/Sersei in the comics.

Sersei and Whitman however have a classic comics convoluted love story: he's interested in her and another woman, Sersei looks like she's going crazy but this is an elaborate plan by a villain, said villain is an alternate self version of Whitman himself. That sort of thing.

I expect this to be a little neater. I actually wonder how much, if any, action Whitman will see here.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131773: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:20:14 AM

The recent Eternals series might have some clues, as it also does a murder mystery

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131774: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:21:34 AM

Oh shit so Sersi and Black Knight have had a romance?

Huh didn't even know BK was involved with the Eternals. Though he was an unrelated character they slotted in.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131775: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:24:02 AM

It was Sersi and Black Knight and Crystal

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