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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#131726: Aug 16th 2021 at 10:56:08 PM

It's good to finally get a sense of what the action looks like in this one. As a martial arts film, what the action looks like is essential to the whole thing.

In true Marvel fashion, there's a few too many cuts (and it doesn't help that there's a couple great Jackie Chan scaffoldign fights to compare it to). But it's still pretty great. I hope the whole movie keeps the fights more martial arts based, and that it doesn't devolve too heavy into CGI superhero fighting when the final battle comes along.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#131727: Aug 17th 2021 at 3:00:41 AM

A certain Brit was at the premiere of Shang-Chi...

Now to speculate on what his cameo will be. The Mandarin brandishing his severed head?

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#131728: Aug 17th 2021 at 6:26:16 AM

More of a question about Disney +, but I wonder why the Marvel One-Shots arent on there yet. You'd think with All Hail The King involving Mandarin, they'd want to put that one on there at least as hype for Shang-Chi.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131729: Aug 17th 2021 at 6:34:54 AM

[up][up] No no,he's playing the fake Mandarin again!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#131731: Aug 17th 2021 at 6:42:11 AM

[up] Of course it will, it's getting released in the middle of a Pandemic.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#131732: Aug 17th 2021 at 6:55:59 AM

Plus let's be honest.

Its probably not anyone's most exciting future mcu film. So I don't blame people for waiting for word of mouth.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#131733: Aug 17th 2021 at 7:07:17 AM

I'm a little ashamed to say that I have no inherent enthusiasm for Shang Chi or The Eternals other than that they are MCU films, and I suspect most people are in the same boat. One thing that Marvel has done a fantastic job of is introducing characters in ensemble films and then spinning them off into their own properties. That could have been useful here, especially since a lot of people are staying home and aren't getting exposed to trailers in cinemas.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#131734: Aug 17th 2021 at 7:19:00 AM

[up] Blame that on pre-COVID planning not really viable now. I'm excited for Shang Chi to a degree, it looks like a fun movie. The Eternals doesn't do it for me at all honestly. Maybe a better trailer will come out later, but the current one isn't that good IMO.I really think they added that last scene (discussing who will lead the Avengers) just to ensure everyone knows its a MCU release.

You and I remember Budapest very differently
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131735: Aug 17th 2021 at 7:23:32 AM

I’m only excited for one aspect of each of these: The real Mandarin for Shang-Chi and Lauren Ridloff for Eternals.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131736: Aug 17th 2021 at 7:24:30 AM

For Eternals I just want to find out what the Hell it’s about.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131737: Aug 17th 2021 at 7:25:39 AM

Its about space aliens who help humans build stuff according the trailer,and they're not little green men

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#131738: Aug 17th 2021 at 8:41:36 AM

The thing with Shang-Chi is that it's essentially following the steps of Ant-Man and Doctor Strange in terms of introducing a completely new corner with a completely new hero. It's actually quite similar to the former in regards to both banking off a connection to an existing thing (SHIELD, Ten Rings) and having surprise cameos (Falcon, Abomination and Wong). And in those regards I honestly think in a normal environment Shang-Chi would've done pretty well. The current response has been a bit tepid because they've been conservative on showing the action scenes (which I'm taking as the biggest draw) and they've been ramping up the marketing quite a bit lately. I'd expect more to emerge as more screenings come out and we get more social media reactions and eventually reviews. Free Guy wound up doing the same thing and I think that's what helped it do as well as it's done and if the RT score's matches current reception then I see a similar result.

It'll still probably be on the lower end of the MCU in absolute terms, but no sane man worth their salt is going to judge it out of context of the pandemic. Literally every movie last year, this year, and for the next two-three is going to have giant asterisks next to them because of it. At this point what matters is that it's short-term successful enough to at least make Disney happy which I'm honestly convinced it will; if there's anything truly upsetting it's that Asian-Americans won't be able to enjoy the runaway box office success with Shang-Chi that black Americans enjoyed with Black Panther.

To me the real test both for Free Guy and Shang-Chi is going to be how their legs are. Black Widow, Jungle Cruise, and The Suicide Squad all immediately plummeted after the first week or two, and all signs point to most people opting for streaming instead. We'll need to see how strong the FOMO is but I'm skeptical how large the "The movie looks great, can't wait until it eventually goes on a streaming platform" crowd truly is.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#131739: Aug 17th 2021 at 8:50:21 AM

I'm slightly excited for Shang-Chi, but less so for the fights than everything else in it. Because I don't watch Marvel for the action since it all looks pretty damn samey, with the exception of a few movies like TWS and Civil War. I'm still interested in the civilian scenes involving Shang-Chi and his dad at least, as the life of the diasporic and assimilated overseas Chinese is a thing that's very interesting to me for self-evidently personal reasons.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131741: Aug 17th 2021 at 10:52:32 AM

I'm real curious about Shang-Chi for a few reasons, one of which is that we get to actually see what it is the Ten Rings do in the MCU after disappearing in Iron Man 3. I also feel obligated to watch it in part due to Simu Liu being a fellow Canadian, and because San Francisco is involved in the film. And dammit do I miss SF.

I am a little worried that there won't be as many non-Asians who want to watch this film though. There's a lot of misinformation about China and the pandemic out there, and a lot of idiots have taken to blaming that on Asian Americans for some reason. Combine that with China's dislike of the promos, and that doesn't seem like a good sign.

But I really want to see this film. I dunno if I'll be able to get tickets as soon as it drops since I'll just be starting school again on it's release date, but I'm willing to brave it. I'm fully vaccinated and I'll wear a mask at the theater.

[up] And hey, if the reactions are positive, that gives me more incentive to go. Here's hoping.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#131742: Aug 17th 2021 at 1:02:59 PM

Yep, the early reactions are positive. I'd also add the Reel Rejects reaction on Youtube to this list (for context, they did not like BW but liked this one).

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 17th 2021 at 11:04:35 AM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#131744: Aug 18th 2021 at 8:23:02 AM

I still can't believe they cast Kit Herrington as magic Jon Snow.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#131745: Aug 18th 2021 at 9:58:21 AM

[up][up] Ikaris looks like a Variant of Bucky smile

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#131746: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:00:05 AM

The memes about that are great, especially since both characters have a penchant for blue shirts.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#131747: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:01:10 AM

He dunt want it. He Nevah has. [lol]

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#131748: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:01:21 AM

There are already memes about it?

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131749: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:06:30 AM

The character bios are real nice, gives us info on the characters. So Sersi is the main character.

Much of Eternals' story centers on Sersi, who has the ability to manipulate non-sentient matter. "She can change things, and she's sort of helped humanity along the way, in little ways," Chan explains. Unlike some of the Eternals, Sersi has a real love and respect for humanity, and in the present day, she's working as a museum curator and dating a human (Dane Whitman, played by Game of Thrones' Kit Harington). She also has a long romantic history with Richard Madden's Ikaris (more on him below).

"She's interesting because she is this immortal being, but she's very grounded as well," Chan says. "She's a little bit of a free spirit and just loves being amongst humans."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#131750: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:07:30 AM

I still think Druig's gonna turn out to be the bad guy here, but I'm hoping I could be wrong.

It is a little funny that two of the actors who played sons of Robb Stark are now in roles where they both have feelings for the same woman. Feels a little too on the nose. tongue


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