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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131526: Aug 11th 2021 at 10:32:39 AM

Okay that right there, thats why the character is inoperable.

Danny shouldn't have to give up shit, he should already be a good Iron Fist. He shouldn't have to give up his fucking powers to anyone, he earned those powers by killing the dragon. Not Colleen, not anyone else, him at least I'm assuming they kept that part of his backstory.

The fact due to the characters immense negative reception, you write in him giving up his powers to someone else is proof of just how much the character got fucked.

Yeah I don't care how much he supposedly improved. Light it up, burn the whole thing to the ground, and then do it over again with a character who is actually good from the start.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 11th 2021 at 10:35:51 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131527: Aug 11th 2021 at 10:33:55 AM

[up]And we have the green light for just that. Sorry Finn.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131528: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:07:43 AM

So, uh...are we gonna talk about what just dropped?

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#131529: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:08:30 AM

Would you care to elaborate on what the "What" in "What just dropped" is?

Edited by Eagal on Aug 11th 2021 at 11:08:51 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131530: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:10:43 AM

If you’re talking about What If, there’s a thread for that in the western animation section.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#131531: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:16:57 AM

Well, to be fair, he first had the powers stolen by someone else (and his leg broken).

In the process of training to get it back, he realized Colleen might be a better choice.

They did end it with him going off on a journey with his not quite brother to learn more about other Immortal weapons (and getting his hands on some chi infused revolvers) opening up the possibility that he might get the powers back in a different way, letting both of them being Immortal Weapons.

But yeah. That version of Danny completely shit the pot. Nothing would have saved him.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#131532: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:18:51 AM

Still, when your best idea for a superhero martial arts show is to have your lead not be good at being a martial artist superhero, you are pretty doomed aside from some comedy.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131533: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:22:01 AM

I'm not sure that power is his to give like that. Like its not a vague worthiness shit like with Mjolnir, its basically kill the dragon with your bare hands, you get the powers.

Its not even necessarily about test of character, there are lot of different types of Iron Fists with its long history. Just because Danny feels Colleen's worthy, doesn't make her worthy.

Danny did kill the dragon. It doesn't matter his self-esteem problems, he is inherently deserving of the power than anyone who hasn't killed the dragon.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 11th 2021 at 11:23:15 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131534: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:25:44 AM

If she killed him than by the commutative property of killing, she’d be worthy of it

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131535: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:36:21 AM

[up]Instead the lawyers killed everyone, metaphorically.

Except Wilson Fisk and (allegedly) Matt.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131536: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:50:42 AM

I'm curious, why is there a seperate thread for What If? I know it's technically Western Animation, but it's technically part of a Live Action Film universe. I mean, it's fine with me, it's just weird to have two different threads for the same franchise.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131537: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:51:31 AM

Think of a separate thread as being smaller and more focused

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#131538: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:51:48 AM

A mix of wanting to be orderly and avoid spoilers? It's still a cartoon, after all.

Edited by Blueace on Aug 11th 2021 at 2:52:48 PM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#131539: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:52:34 AM

Every fairly recent MCU movie has a thread somewhere in the forum depths. The Black Widow one is still on the first page.

ETA: the shows as well, in Live-Action TV.

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 11th 2021 at 1:54:58 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131540: Aug 11th 2021 at 11:53:01 AM

Hmm. I see.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#131541: Aug 11th 2021 at 12:00:01 PM

Speaking of What If, we have a new timeline update from Disney+. The animated series is sandwiched between Loki and WandaVision.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#131542: Aug 11th 2021 at 12:03:29 PM

Considering what we've learned, that makes sense.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#131543: Aug 11th 2021 at 12:04:08 PM

I'm not entirely sure what that means since it's playing with alternate universes. Maybe it's a Stealth Sequel to Loki given the disintegration of the TVA, but that remains to be seen.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#131544: Aug 11th 2021 at 12:15:35 PM

Finn Jones wasn't a particularly great actor, but he did grow on me as Danny Rand so I'll miss him a little if/when they recast the role.

Damnit, I wanted to see what happens in season 3. You can't just show us Danny with chi-powered guns touring Asia and asking about an Orson Randall and then not follow up on that, Netflix!

Danny giving up the Iron Fist to Colleen did feel like a flimsy excuse in-universe to respond to out-of-universe backlash, but come on. Chi-powered guns. Plus he was probably gonna regain a proper Iron Fist for himself had the show continued.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 11th 2021 at 3:17:31 PM

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#131545: Aug 11th 2021 at 12:25:46 PM

Honestly, Shang-Chi is looking more and more like it would make an Iron Fist reboot redundant, since it's leaning into Danny's "mystical kung-fu master" niche rather than Shang's actual "grounded and Badass Normal kung-fu master" niche.

Edited by lbssb on Aug 11th 2021 at 7:56:26 AM

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#131546: Aug 11th 2021 at 3:36:18 PM

But can Shang Chi defeat Danny Rand? The Immortal Iron First. Sworn protector of Kung Lao, and enemy of The Hand.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131547: Aug 11th 2021 at 7:54:13 PM

I could easily see Iron Fist either becoming a character in a Shang Chi sequel, or getting a "take two" Disney+ show just to really stick it to the Netflix version, all dependent on how Shang-Chi does, which is a massive question mark right now (the fights filled with tons of quick cuts and good old Murican shaky cam aren't helping).

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131548: Aug 11th 2021 at 7:55:05 PM

I said before they could just do a Heroes for Hire show where Luke and Danny are co-leads where the hook is the characters differing genres (Luke's crime stuff to Danny's mystical Kung-Fu stuff) colliding together.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 11th 2021 at 7:56:04 AM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#131549: Aug 11th 2021 at 10:24:39 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if they make it so that the bearer of the ten rings is an immortal weapon.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#131550: Aug 12th 2021 at 1:07:58 AM

Prediction: the Ten Rings are actually meant to be rings, not armbands. They're rings that originally belonged to the huge space dragon Fin Fang Foom, who wore them on his fingers.


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