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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#131426: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:13:55 PM

We know Thor doesn't go for the head.

quality pagetopper, this.

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 9th 2021 at 5:14:09 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131427: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:17:28 PM

But can Thor give some head?

Ahha that’s the real question.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131428: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:23:44 PM

Loki would.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131430: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:27:10 PM

[up]Maybe in the DCEU they don’t.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131431: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:28:18 PM

I can ascertain that I once saw a post showcasing an encounter between Green Arrow and Black Canary where Arrow…….. goes out of panel while Canary has a smile on her face.

So GA definitely does at least.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131432: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:28:36 PM

hey let's leaving them DCU bashing out of this

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131433: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:29:27 PM

DC aside, Hank Pym definitely does

It’s his checkered past which gives him the gray morality needed to satisfy women

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 9th 2021 at 6:52:50 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131434: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:32:33 PM

I can confirm Hank and Janet had kinky shrinking sex.

He’s prolly a better lover than Tony.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 9th 2021 at 3:32:56 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131435: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:34:37 PM

Guys..let's keep this thread clean

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HBarnill Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
#131436: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:36:27 PM

Jeez, this thread's been around for a decade now! Fun looking at the past posts seeing what we didn't know then.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#131437: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:44:04 PM

Yeah, this thread is 10 years and 4 days old now.

Okey Dokey!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131438: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:45:04 PM

...What have I done?

The legend has returned.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131439: Aug 9th 2021 at 3:45:47 PM

So after that little…detour, I think it’s safe to say the next big batch of news will occur around Cinema Con (apparently they’re premiering Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings at the convention). Between Sony having a panel and that, we may be on the brink of more news.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#131440: Aug 9th 2021 at 4:12:53 PM

Found this gem on the first page:

To me the Avengers film feels like a bad idea. Can anyone name a movie with that many main characters that manages to give all of them depth and show relationships between the (aside from the novel-based epic of Lord of the Rings)? It's likely to be another X-Men 3.

Man nowadays, the first Avengers film feels small-scale in comparison to everything that's come after it. Juggling six heroes? Try a two-part film that juggles 50+ heroes! Holy hell, we've come a long way.

While looking through the first ten pages, I find it hilarious how all these years later, we're still debating how Marvel will introduce the mutants into the MCU and talking about how DC is having trouble getting it's act together.

Also, everyone seemed certain that the Skrulls were going to be in the first Avengers movie. Granted, the Chitauri were originally supposed to be the Ultimate Universe's take on them, but then the movie changed them so much they became the defacto portrayal of the species going forward.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Aug 9th 2021 at 7:28:37 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#131441: Aug 9th 2021 at 4:33:30 PM

[up]Well... at least DC's been doing a lot better lately. Especially their most recent outing... with help from some Marvel talent, ironically.

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#131442: Aug 9th 2021 at 4:50:44 PM

Some other fun posts to appreciate with the benefit of hindsight tongue

This one regarding Marvel announcing two unknown movies for 2014:

I hope its not the Guardians of the Galaxy. The Marvel Universe is only still young, lets not start bogging it down with the bad cosmic stories.

*laughs in multiverse/time-travel shennanigans*

I wonder how they're going to do the Mandarin. He's something of a sensitive subject, I think.

Oh, you sweet summer child.

Fox may not be renewing the Fantastic Four license!

Its only a rumor, but if true, squee!

Oh, you sweet summer child...

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#131443: Aug 9th 2021 at 5:08:35 PM

It reminds me of that time Elizabeth Olsen spoiled her own show six years in advance. [lol]

Edited by dmcreif on Aug 9th 2021 at 9:18:31 AM

Okey Dokey!
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131444: Aug 9th 2021 at 7:37:14 PM

I'll be honest, I'm amazed that the MCU is still going, and that so many people, myself included, are still loving what they're doing going forward. I thought there would have to be a time where I was going to tell myself "Yeah, I probably have to let this stuff go now and go be an adult" or something among those lines. But I'm still here and loving it now. With all the other projects I started following crashing and burning, I'm just happy this is is still alive and kicking. Yeah, it's not perfect, but this experiment has been pretty successful and really inspiring in some ways. So I'm happy I'm a fan.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131445: Aug 9th 2021 at 7:40:20 PM

And we're getting even crazier and obscurer with the projects.

We've reached some kind of level if Werewolf by Midnight is getting his own show.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#131446: Aug 9th 2021 at 7:44:38 PM

It's also interesting how Marvel has built basically the only cinematic universe of note. It seems like everyone else from DC to Universal has tried and mostly failed at, or at least to the degree that no one's expecting a big Myth Arc from any of them.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#131447: Aug 9th 2021 at 7:47:03 PM

Mousa predicted the future in the third post of the thread with this one:

I like it. I wouldn't recommend it for future movie franchises, but I do like it.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131448: Aug 9th 2021 at 8:54:31 PM

I feel like the ultimate problem with trying to start a cinematic universe is that every studio tries to jump to the end. Marvel started out very small and unfocused on the future when they made Iron Man, only telling his story and nothing else. It took a while for them to develop characters from other places in the same world, and then finally get them to meet. Doing a cinematic universe is possible, but very hard since very few people have the patience and planning of Kevin Feige.

On an unrelated note, is it weird to feel that watching the MCU is almost like a time capsule at this point? Sure, there's a lot of advanced stuff for 2008-2013 standards, but man it's kinda weird to see how dated some of the earlier films look. And yet, that's kinda part of the charm.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Aug 9th 2021 at 8:54:52 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#131449: Aug 9th 2021 at 10:10:00 PM

"Hank Pym is only really pushed by Marvel because he is a Kirby-Lee creation, and therefore automatically special. Because he exists in an industry in which inertia is paramount, Hank Pym continues to be used despite a lack of public interest or renown, iconic imagery or archetypal appeal, an important role to fill in the Marvel Universe (what with the more popular Mr. Fantastic and Iron Man around), iconic stories, stable titles, or even a stable heroic identity or code name.

"

It is intersting this coment because it the end it was kinda right, hank get largely demoted to secondary chararter in the second movie and it focus in scott, so rather than having another scientist that be redundant with hulk and stark, he is the somewhat bumbling antman.

"I agree Ultron should be saved for later, I guess that for a solo film it would make for an excellent tragic story that still details the personality of thee character. I do like your idea though and would make mroe sense. "

......Oh dear.....

And about cinematic universe: I will said the thing that make Marvel stand is consistent quality, not all marvel universe are good, but so far no of them are outright bad in the same it bombs and deserve to be mock, at the very worst they are boring and a kind of "watch once only" like first antman or black widow. Meaning that at the very least you saw a mindless entretainment for a couple of hours and at best you kinda saw a movie like black manter or winter soldier.

if you compared this to other cinematic universe is were problem starts: DC is all over the place in quality, ranging to kinda sorta good(man of steel, aquaman, shazam), polarizing broken bases(Bv S) to downright bad(wheedon justice league, Sucide squad) to "Oh my dear"(Wonder woman), make it a hit or miss and dosent have engagability like marvel universe does.

Edited by unknowing on Aug 9th 2021 at 1:17:49 PM

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