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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131051: Aug 1st 2021 at 10:16:11 AM

“She then tries to talk to him about the Harrow case, only to discover that Tony has no idea that he is in the midst of a lawsuit. She explains how Accutech, an old Stark subsidiary and it's vice-president stole repulsor technology designs created by Jonas Harrow. Stark remembers Eddie Finch and recounts how he embezzled money from the company and ran unauthorized tests and had since been fired. She then convinces Tony to quietly write Mrs. Harrow a reasonable check to make this go away and perhaps rethink having so much automation within his company. Tony is impressed and agrees to her terms, calling her magnificent.”

The teal deer is that he didn’t but one of his subsidiary companies did and she tells him to be more aware of what people are doing in his name

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#131052: Aug 1st 2021 at 10:30:02 AM

Today in Spoiled by the Merchandise, some more toys for No Way Home went up that seem to more or less confirm what everyone already suspected but that Marvel itself is still curiously secretive about.

"Blast your way into another universe with the Spider-Man: No Way Home Hero Blasters!"
Swing into terror with the Spider-Man: No Way Home 6-Inch Action Figures! With lots of articulation and potentially multiversal consequences, each figure draws its inspiration from the movie - and potentially other movies too! Case includes 8 individually packaged web slingers and sinister people.

Note that the Tweet that pointed this out was taken down and now a number of the stores that had the original listings have since updated to remove the bolded bits.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 1st 2021 at 10:30:19 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131053: Aug 1st 2021 at 10:31:31 AM

reminder that merchandise won't always reflect the movie its based off,see hulk buster armour

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#131054: Aug 1st 2021 at 10:51:44 AM

"Potentially multiversial consequences"

I thought a retcon punch was Superboy Prime's thing

Edited by Zarius on Aug 1st 2021 at 10:54:14 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#131055: Aug 1st 2021 at 10:51:46 AM

[up][up]At this point with everything we know it's extremely unlikely the Multiverse mention was just something exclusive to the merchandise.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 1st 2021 at 10:52:07 AM

DoubleOG (Apprentice)
#131056: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:15:10 AM

That still doesn't mean it's a 1:1 translation.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131057: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:25:35 AM

It’s August, summer is in its second half, and still no No Way Home trailer.

The only thing I can think of to drop it off during as a major event tagalong is the premiere of football season, and that’s in September. Seems like too long a wait, don’t you think?

The scale of the rumors though. I still remember when I thought it was just going to be an adaptation of “24 hours till Doomsday!”

Edited by Beatman1 on Aug 1st 2021 at 2:27:10 PM

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#131058: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:29:47 AM

[up]We're not getting a trailer for No Way Home because it's not coming out in December. Plain and simple.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131059: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:31:39 AM

[up]Have they officially moved the release? If they did I’ll be quiet but if they haven’t you would figure “Wait till 2022, now leave us alone” would be an easy way to nip all this in the bud. Google still lists December 17, 2021.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#131060: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:33:18 AM

[up]They haven't changed the date officially but the fact that we've heard nothing in terms of a trailer despite coming out in four months suggests a December release is looking more and more unlikely.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#131061: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:38:21 AM

That still doesn't mean it's a 1:1 translation.

Well, yeah. I doubt the plot is going to be resolved by Spider-Man using wrist-mounted plastic toys.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131062: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:44:57 AM

Admitably I’m really hoping it’s not multiverse stuff. Not really that interested in them trying to copy Spiderverse now.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131063: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:48:41 AM

[up]Considering The Stinger was JJ, I figured “24 hours till Doomsday!” was a good story to focus on their bizarre relationship.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131064: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:48:57 AM

caturing to treads is how you draw in ticket sales unfortunely,the spiderverse movies created a demand for multidimensional stuff and the fans can't get enough of it

So,supply and demand

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131065: Aug 1st 2021 at 11:50:46 AM

I don't think I ever saw an official source on this but it was generally accepted as a widely believed rumor that the Sony Marvel agreement meant Spider-Man movies had to be released in the lucrative December month. Its very possible that the realities of the pandemic have gotten them to agree to push it back though.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131066: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:30:29 PM

I think part of the reason people are more invested in multiversal stuff is because there exists a greater chance of being able to adapt any and all versions of superheroes/villains that exist in other mediums. Spider-Verse kinda capitalized on that, and now people kinda want more. Hence why What If exists, and is loosely adapting stuff like the Marvel Zombies comic.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131067: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:31:16 PM

As for the lack of No Way Home trailer...yeah, I'm gonna blame the Delta variant on this one.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131068: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:32:20 PM

I get the interest in multiverse stuff, I just fear it might make Peter’s next story messy.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131069: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:46:52 PM

[up] I'm inclined to agree, and I honestly feel that it's going to be "Spider-Verse, but live action" which I'm not too keen on. I'm hoping it'll be still cool and interesting, but the ideas don't feel quite as innovative here.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#131070: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:48:12 PM

picturing it,spidermen everywhere!It will be like the cloning saga all over again!

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#131071: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:51:00 PM

[up]Why do you like mentioning the Clone Saga so much?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#131072: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:51:30 PM

Its like the sore tooth that Marvel and the fans can't stop poking at.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131073: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:52:21 PM

I thought that was One More Day.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#131074: Aug 1st 2021 at 12:52:22 PM

I wouldn’t actually mind a Clone Saga adaptation.

It hasn’t exactly been done before and Kaine and Ben are great characters.

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#131075: Aug 1st 2021 at 1:01:52 PM

Uh I thought most of the hate for that has died down over time (At least in part since people have way more hated stuff to latch onto)?

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