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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#131026: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:03:41 PM

I feel like Groot could also withstand the Gauntlet. Or at least he'd turn back into Baby Groot after doing it.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#131027: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:05:29 PM

Hulk did it because it was largely emitting Gamma radiation, which he's already a sponge for, not just because he's big and strong.

Carol might be able to muscle through that too; she can fly around outer space without any sort of radiation protection, after all. We don't know for certain, though.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jul 31st 2021 at 12:05:43 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#131028: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:11:38 PM

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She had it when she was actively trying to get it to the time machine van, so her thoughts weren't about using it at all.

And then she was more concerned with stopping Thanos from using it.

So yeah, while she had her hands on it a few times, the opportunity to try never came because there was always a more immediate concern.

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#131030: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:17:13 PM

And Bruce still messed himself up a fair bit.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#131031: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:19:15 PM

[up]Yeah, but if he can live through it...

[up][up][up] Wouldn't using it be a good way to stop Thanos from using it? It's a Infinity Gauntlet, after all.

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#131032: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:27:27 PM

It's important to note that even Thanos was overwhelmed at first when he finally assembled the Infinity Gauntlet and took a few seconds to get used to the full power he now wielded. And those few seconds led to an ax getting hurled in his chest and nearly claiming his life.

Honestly, it's a miracle that Tony got about half a minute wielding that Gauntlet before snapping his fingers. He could've easily been taken out by a stray shot or by Thanos rushing him.

But at this point, I'm just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. tongue

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jul 31st 2021 at 12:28:44 PM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#131033: Jul 31st 2021 at 9:28:47 PM

But at this point, I'm just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking

Welcome to the club.

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#131034: Jul 31st 2021 at 10:04:32 PM

Y'know, I actually wonder if when Strange was going through all those alternate possibilities, just how many of them weren't actual failures but rather a success immediately followed by the TVA fucking in and going "Nope, you didn't do it right, this'll create Kang... uh, I mean Sacred Timeline, whatever" and resetting it all?

Edited by lbssb on Jul 31st 2021 at 10:04:50 AM

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#131035: Jul 31st 2021 at 10:21:30 PM

A new press release listing the cast for What If...?

In addition to the ones we already knew, it includes Don Cheadle, Paul Bettany, Benedict Cumberbatch, Clark Gregg, Kurt Russell, Andy Serkis, Benedict Wong, Danai Gurira, Evangeline Lilly, Emily VanCamp, Benicio del Toro, Frank Grillo, George St. Pierre (Batroc), Cobie Smulders, Angela Bassett, Leslie Bibb (the reporter from the first Iron Man), Tilda Swinton, John Kani (King T’Chaka), Jaimie Alexander, Kat Dennings, Clancy Brown (Surtur), and, most shockingly, Bradley Whitford (who was in the original Agent Carter one-shot).

Edited by comicwriter on Jul 31st 2021 at 11:43:38 AM

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#131036: Jul 31st 2021 at 11:10:53 PM

Which of those actors have never done voice acting before?

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#131037: Aug 1st 2021 at 1:52:15 AM

Clark Gregg
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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#131038: Aug 1st 2021 at 2:22:00 AM

A whole episode dedicated to what if Coulson survived Loki stabbing him.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#131039: Aug 1st 2021 at 4:29:20 AM

Or maybe it's the fault of the writers, who want to have the heroes show off how amazing they are by destroying entire armies, but then other branches of the canon have villains solidify their status as evil by destroying entire armies.

What branches of canon have done this? When the writers want to have villains cross the Moral Event Horizon they do it by having them kill civilians not soldiers who instigated the conflict.

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#131040: Aug 1st 2021 at 6:13:04 AM

Armies and soldiers do indeed kill other armies and soldiers in battle. That's quite normal.

Not sure what's been getting at here?

[up]Thats confusing. Not sure which example they mean? Everything I can think off like Hela, Poject Insight or Red Skull or Mysterio's city destruction plans would have clearly hit populated civilian areas? That's not really comparable to the good guys killing bad guys who intend to ensure that happens.

Edited by miraculous on Aug 1st 2021 at 6:14:51 AM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#131041: Aug 1st 2021 at 6:56:03 AM

Maybe they're thinking of Ronan killing the Nova Corps? But even then, Ronan was still targeting civilians during that attack and his end goal was to literally kill every single living thing on the planet.

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Goku Black
#131042: Aug 1st 2021 at 7:35:21 AM

Uh well comparing genocidal religious fanatic and his soldjers to people trying to stop their people from genocide is uh unfortunate....

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#131043: Aug 1st 2021 at 7:39:53 AM

[up]There’s a lot of “both siding” in fiction that tends to be done in the name of providing a conflict that can look really bad if you think about it too hard. This is hardly unique but it’s still unfortunate.

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#131044: Aug 1st 2021 at 7:46:22 AM

I think its simply trying to force grey morality into a conflict where it doesn't exist between clear good guys and bad guys.

It's not a good thing as it reeks of false equivalence where aggressors are somehow comparable to their victims.

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dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#131045: Aug 1st 2021 at 7:47:24 AM

Didn't one of the Fridge pages raise the idea that the Nova-Kree treaty was the Kree seeking to enlist Nova Corps for the ongoing war between the Kree and the Skrulls?

Edited by dmcreif on Aug 1st 2021 at 10:47:44 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#131046: Aug 1st 2021 at 7:58:27 AM

It just hit me that though the Avengers restored all the life across the universe that Thanos destroyed, we haven’t had a space movie since and won’t for a while, so we don’t know how the rest of the galaxy feels about that.

Does alien society idolize the Avengers too? Do the even know the Avengers were involved? Do they not know or care what happened?

Superhero comics tend to try a mildly contradictory concept where Earth is the nexus of the greatest heroes in the universe who save all of reality time and again, while at the same time being a backwater nobody cares about or takes seriously, so I wonder how the MCU will handle that.

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The Tapestry Weaver
#131047: Aug 1st 2021 at 8:12:27 AM

[up] I feel like that's going to change relatively soon, given that Nick Fury is in space with the Skrulls, and we have the Marvels coming up. I do hope that we get some more world-building in the cosmos though. The MCU definitely needs more of that.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#131048: Aug 1st 2021 at 8:22:16 AM

Okay, just read through that updated cast listing. And now I'm super excited! A couple of things that stood out to me:

Seems that Benedict Cumberbatch still is Strange after all in this series. People were saying he was Other Darrin'd in this show, which confused the hell outta me. I mean, I get replacing Iron Man and Captain America, since their actors want to move on to new projects. But recasting somebody still involved in the MCU at large still confuses me. Seems to still be the case with Captain Marvel, which bothers me if only because Brie Larson haters are going to latch onto it.

Carrie Coon and Tom-Vaughan Lawlor are back, which means we'll get to see the Black Order again! I really hope Marvel expands on them, since I thought they were genuinely interesting characters who deserve more screen time. I understand why they didn't have much room to stuff in Infinity War and Endgame, but they definitely can shine here, which I'm happy about.

Clark Gregg's return will mean he gets to interact with the MCU at large once again, minus that brief role he played in Captain Marvel. I haven't seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, (don't sue me), so it'll be nice to see him back again for the first time in a while.

Kurt Russell is a surprise. I was certain he was going to be Other Darrin'd, since Ego seemed very much like a one-off role, and I had read reports he was planning on retiring soon. But hey, I think he's a great actor, and I'm excited to see him return to Ego.

I'm glad we'll still get a little more Georges St-Pierre in this show. I thought he would've been gone for good given his fate in Falcon and Winter Soldier.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#131049: Aug 1st 2021 at 8:45:12 AM

Come to think of it, given how large the universe is, there's bound to be countless civilizations that have absolutely no context of the Snap. Say, a planet that's millions of light years away from Earth and has had no contact with any other civilizations. They wouldn't know about the Avengers or Thanos. All the know is that one day, half of their population turned to dust and then five years later they came back. No real explanation given, it's just something that happened.

Can you imagine what that would do their civilization? What happens five years after everyone came back? Would they worry that this will be a repeating incident? How would their religons or scientists try to explain it? It'd be like if it happened to us in the real world, except we don't live in a world where magic space rocks exist. That we know of. It would truly seem like an act of god to us.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Aug 1st 2021 at 11:45:52 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#131050: Aug 1st 2021 at 9:57:28 AM

I think when he went for the knee jerk spite move of swiping a truck of alien material from the site he put himself in a position where it was hard to pursue legal options

[up] There was a story like this in a She Hulk run where Stark Whatever was accused of stealing a supervillain’s IP. When Jen finally managed to have a conversation with Tony he just agreed to write a massive check

Right, so I got [nja]'ed and didn't notice, so I never got an answer to this question: did he do it?

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