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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#130676: Jul 28th 2021 at 7:17:49 AM

Hydra Cap was less cartoonishly evil than Ultimate Cap.

The legend has returned.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#130677: Jul 28th 2021 at 7:45:37 AM

[up]Better Hydra than Francetongue

"Loki providing a "way" for Agents of Shield to hypothetically be canon doesn't make it canon, though."

Specially since Ao S was made to explain some scenes like fury showing up with a new shinny helicarrier out of nowhere in Ao U, now that the show isnt canon, it kinda sorta introdce a plothole.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130678: Jul 28th 2021 at 7:50:13 AM

I will never stop laughing at the sheer bizarreness that Ultimate Steve is such a profoundly boring boyfriend that Janet felt compelled to go talk to Hank behind his back.

Because while Hank may have abused her for years and almost killed her on several occasions, at least she can have a conversation with him.

Captain America people, such a dull drab lug of a boyfriend that you feel compelled to go back to your abusive ex.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#130679: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:11:17 AM

Ultimates 3 had some truly, truly, truly, truly bizarre takes.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130680: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:12:43 AM

That was Ultimates 2.......

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130681: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:17:18 AM

Ultimates 3 just had Steve being chastised for not getting that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were a couple despite the whole brother and sister thing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130682: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:19:09 AM

Actually what makes the whole Janet thing even worse is that Steve actually makes it about him.

When he confronts Janet about it, he actually complains more about how the whole thing makes him look and how humiliating it is to have your girlfriend run back to her abusive ex when she's having "prime American beef."

He is a total White Knight asshole.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#130683: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:26:55 AM

Ultimates all had some truly, truly, truly, truly bizarre takes.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130684: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:33:25 AM

Thor and Iron Man were pretty great though.

Especially the former who is the only one truly worthy and deserving to be called a hero.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 28th 2021 at 8:39:59 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130685: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:36:56 AM

Spiderman as well. Possibly one of the greatest versions of him.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#130686: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:37:31 AM

And of course, Nick Fury and Miles Morales.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130687: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:39:25 AM

Definitely not Fury.

He's an imperialist dimension conquering asshole and also a serial womanizer considering he literally slept with every single female in Monica Chang's (his ex-wife) social circle.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 28th 2021 at 8:39:42 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#130688: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:41:30 AM

Didn't Ultimate Nick Fury forever change the way the public saw his character? Since he was made to reassemble Samuel L. Jackson who then played him in the first Iron Man film?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130689: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:44:41 AM

[up]They took Jackson's likeness without his permission, Jackson asked what the fuck, and Marvel negotiated for the likeness with a clause that Jackson had first rights to play the character in the film. The rest is history.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130690: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:47:11 AM

Yeah its more he heard they made Fury look like him and so he liked it so much he called up to Marvel so they can cast him whenever they put Fury in a movie.

Its not really related to Ultimate Fury's character or actions committed within the comic where is a manipulative motherfucker.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 28th 2021 at 8:48:17 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#130691: Jul 28th 2021 at 9:06:03 AM

He also constantly gets out played and manages to stay on top only because of all the superheroes he gets to bail him out

He’s not the master manipulator he says he is

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130693: Jul 28th 2021 at 9:29:42 AM

Personality wise MCU nick fury is much closer to his 616 version.

Which uh is true off most of the ultimate. They initially used the updated designs and costumes but cut the abhorsnt stuff.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130694: Jul 28th 2021 at 9:30:19 AM

Just like those Ultimate Avengers animated movies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#130695: Jul 28th 2021 at 10:07:00 AM

Not that 616 Nick is a saint either. See Original Sin.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#130696: Jul 28th 2021 at 10:38:04 AM

Looks like Tom Rothman gets to keep his hands on Spidey as he has extended his contract with Sony.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#130697: Jul 28th 2021 at 10:40:30 AM

Ultimate Reed Richards must have been pretty okay, as he gets a lot of play in the comics?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#130698: Jul 28th 2021 at 11:46:47 AM

[up]

....he kinda sorta became a super villain actually.

Called the Maker and all that.

One Strip! One Strip!
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#130699: Jul 28th 2021 at 11:48:36 AM

Wake up honey, new Shang-Chi trailer just drop!

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130700: Jul 28th 2021 at 11:52:38 AM

Honestly he's actually pretty cool.

His Venom appearances in particular are fun.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

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