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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
In Ao S they did showed that even regular people got ahold of chitauri technology.
There was a episode in which a firefighter kept a helmet as a souvenir, but it happened to be infected with a virus deadly to humans, killing him and some of his crewmates.
Tony’s armor makes so many technological leaps througout the movies that I think he probably did learn from some of the various alien crap that kept exploding on earth
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThat makes sense.
He really starts making jumps post Avengers.
There were some who thought he may have gotten a chance to look at Wakandan tech considering the sudden move to Nano-tech in Infinity War.
Especially since his armour in that is basically every single suit from the House Part Protocol in one.
One Strip! One Strip!But see, if you made Mangeto a survivor of the Rwandan genocide, you'd have a villain whose core trait is going too far in lashing out against bigotry, now being played by a black man. That would invite so many hot takes calling out the Unfortunate Implications (especially if Professor X remains a white guy).
The essence of the character is that he's a victim of genocide going too far. That's baked into him. I feel like there's already sort of Unfortunate Implications in the DNA of the character, but done well you can say compelling things anyway. That I feel doesn't change no matter what race you make him. And if they were to make him Rwandan I would hope they wouldn't make Professor X white. Although I would still want him to come from a position of privilege (i.e. rich), because I really like the dichotomy that entails.
Edited by jjjj2 on Jul 25th 2021 at 1:36:22 PM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midEarly Installment Weirdness at play here.
If you wanna see the classic, irredeemable Magneto being played straight, look at Ultimate Magneto.
I'm not suggesting that Magneto go back to his early days as Mutant Hitler. But I am saying that if Magneto's origins was changed by Claremont to bring awareness of the trauma the Holocaust survivors suffered to a new generation, it can be done again to better reflect our time and the MCU while still staying true to what has come before.
I mean, Thanos initially started as the alien villain that Drax the Destroyer wanted to kill (with Iron Man tagging along) and Thanos being in love with Death and using the Infinity Gauntlet wasn't established until decades later (and became the most iconic and well-known core characterization of the character in the comics).
But the MCU couldn't pull off such an outlandish premise even with talking racoons, so they had to make their own Thanos from the ground up, still staying true to themes surrounding the Mad Titan (like death, wiping out half of the universe with a snap of his finger, and making a lot of enemies like Drax) but with their own interpretation that best fits the world of MCU (obsession with balance, a Well-Intentioned Extremist, "love" for his adopted daughters, etc.). And he's still recognized as Thanos. Same thing with Spider-Man (whose high school life borrows a lot from Miles) and Baron Zemo (who is reinterpreted as a someone who always hated Nazis rather than being pro-Nazi than later renounces his Nazi ideology).
So instead of trying to make Voodoo Shark explanations for Magneto to be played by a relatively young actor in 2020s and still have his Holocaust backstory, it is better for the MCU to go back to the basics and ask "What makes Magneto Magneto and how do we make his character relatable in the present day while still being true to the past?" Yes, Magneto would essentially be a new character with this modern update but then again, Peter Parker is more Miles Morales than the classic Peter Parker and yet most people accept him as Peter Parker because it's still thematically true to the character and premise.
Edited by Shadao on Jul 25th 2021 at 11:12:10 AM
I'm not sure why, but I've really become curious with the character of Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. I don't know the actress that well (although my dad thinks she was amazing in Veep and Seinfeld), but I really like how they're building her up as this Ambiguously Evil mystery person that's constantly hiring people with a unique skillset to work on her behalf. She kinda makes me think of the G-Man from Half-Life, but as a regular person instead of some Humanoid Abomination. Anyone else feel similar?
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I'm mostly curious to see why she manipulated Yelena Belova into believing Hawkeye was responsible for Natasha's death. Can't help but wonder if she actually wants Clint dead, or if she's sending Yelena on a wild goose chase as some kind of distraction. Or maybe she's doing it for shits and giggles.
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I think in all honesty, I'm starting to really like a lot of the Badass Normal spy characters in the MCU more than I did when I was younger. I dunno, the idea of just being some kind of regular government agent getting involved with supernatural or extraterrestrial elements mixed with regular cases and field work has always been something I like. I'm really curious to see what Nick Fury gets up to in space, for instance. And how Black Widow went from defecting from Russia to America, to shadowing a billionaire in an iron suit, to fighting a bunch of aliens and robots.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Jul 25th 2021 at 2:48:49 AM
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I can see her ending up as some sort of vague Marvel equivalent to Amanda Waller - setting up a squad for purposes you don't necessarily want "heroes" entangled in - in this case it's most likely to be Dark Avengers given she's now got herself equivalents of both Cap and Widow.
I also quite like the idea of Badass Normal types finding their place in the MCU, and I think they've so far found a good balance of making these guys definitely be good at certain things and in certain situations but not at the expense of showing that in sheer power terms they still rank well below Thunder Gods and Super Soldiers.
Edited by jakobitis on Jul 25th 2021 at 10:55:53 AM
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."The thing about this whole Magneto conversation/debate is that it sounds valid enough at first glance, but it's only when you really pull back that you can see how messed up it is.
We're not just talking about an interesting villain here. We're talking about the most prominent Jewish character in the comics industry, one popular in part because of his explicit Jewish identity and how he is tied by that to one of the worst atrocities in human history. It is a gigantic multi-layered cake of Unfortunate Implications to scrub that identity out and swap around genocides, with one layer being why the Rwandan Genocide is such a popular alternative pick. You could put the time and effort to making this shuffle work and try to make it not come off as just a lesser derivative of the OG Magneto...or you could just keep Magneto as-is, Hand Wave the Improbable Age which is the only reason this comes up in the first place, and move on. Maybe it's worth actually playing more into it and working more with it, as noted it's only getting more important to remember as The Holocaust becomes more of a distant memory.
On a completely different but still slightly related note, it still really bugs me raw that people still want Kamala and other Inhumans/Nu-Humans reworked into mutants. There is no reason for this to be floated around other than the belief that the Inhumans as a concept deserves to be torched, which...just always comes off as short-sighted. Inhumans, mutants, Eternals, etc. have all existed together for decades, a few years of Executive Meddling shouldn't mean much of anything.
Trying to remember:
Was it stated if Dr. Strange remembered each of the time loops (and thus, every single one of his deaths) or if it was always the first time for him, and only Dormammu was noticing that time was looping?
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Also, as I am once again watching Spiderman Homecoming, I'm wondering who else got their hands on remaining Chitauri tech?
Come to think of it, I'm wondering if Tony ever tried to incorporate some of it into his own tech?
Like, AOU shows us he's not above trying that. He must have considered it, especially since he was the one who organized Damage Control.
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