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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Having someone leap from a burgeoning mutant present to a future where nobody is aware that they're a thing would make the MCU a Bad Future for the X-Men, which makes me laugh.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers....A Bad Future for the X-Men?
Wow, that's exactly why it's the perfect solution!
In fact, the X-Men being brough to the future and finding it super shitty is pretty much exactly what happened when the original 5 X-Men were put in that situation.
I mentioned the bad future to my friend and they suggested that the X-Men would go back to their own time and defeat whatever and then future MCU movies would just have mutants from then on with no elaboration given as to how this affected movies already released.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Uh-huh...and you still came...
You know how you hear somebody say something but you don't remember seeing it written so you just have to take a stab at it?
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 24th 2021 at 8:10:14 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.For me, I'm in favor of this scheme for getting mutants into the MCU.
Mutants have always existed, but have been astonishingly rare. Like no more than a half dozen on the planet at any one time rare. The mutant gene itself is more common, but is almost always inactive.
Then SOMETHING happens that causes a much higher percentage of people with the mutant gene to start manifesting abilities. Perhaps not all at once, but over the course of a few years. This process could of already began if say, the incident was the surge in cosmic energy caused by the infinity stones being used on Earth three times.
This allows for historical mutants to exist when it's especially important for their backstory (Magneto being a definite example), but in low enough numbers that they've managed to mostly slide under the radar. While at the same time allowing for a large population of modern mutants and all the stories that entails.
While this does have some similarities to the Inhumans, I feel like it's an acceptable tradeoff and there's no option without tradeoffs.
Edited by Falrinn on Jul 24th 2021 at 8:11:30 AM
Personally speaking, they’d probably make Kamala a Mutant (or something else entirely), considering the sheer overlap between the two that it’d be easy to merge the different species into a single MCU conglomerate, plus I’m pretty sure Marvel wants nothing to do with the Inhumans after the Dork Age.
The Inhumans don’t even have a comic now.
Like even during the Inhumans push they still gave the X-Men something. Now the Inhumans have been basically put on the shelf on their entirety barring Kamala and Lockjaw.
Yeah they don’t want anything to do with them.
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 24th 2021 at 9:01:59 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I think Kamala, Lunella and a couple of others remain of that era, aside from the royal family. Burying the work of like a decade was pretty easy for them.
The question would be how will they adapt the mutants, since that bunch feels like a universe on their own at times.
Wake me up at your own risk.Reading Magneto's history in comics, and how his early days have him commanding a Nazi-styled march
with M swapping out the swastika, and the revelation of Magneto being a Holocaust survivor was a detail introduced during the 1980s, I do believe that Magneto's backstory is not truly unmalleable as some will make out.
In fact, I just read this article documenting why Chris Claremont made Magneto a Holocaust survivor
. Namely, Chirs was impacted by the silence of the survivors when they were watching a documentation of the Holocaust with the imagery of the camps and atrocities. It's what motivated Chris to even bring the real-life genocide to the X-Men comics rather than using mere allegory to the Nazis during Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's time.
And as well as the fact that the reason why Magneto became a Holocaust survivor was due to the fact that Xavier had partaken in the Korean War and that if Magneto is around the same age as Xavier, it would most certainly be plausible for Magneto to personally witness the Holocaust firsthand, and thus provided the path for Magneto to go from a Card-Carrying Villain to a tragic figure born from revenge and a desire to never be hurt again.
So based on these facts, I will say that Magneto's relationship with Charles Xavier is more important to the character overall, and that attempts to justify Magneto's WII backstory with slow aging, cryogenics, time travel, etc. are Voodoo Shark explanations that fail to address the other piece of Magneto's backstory, his former friendship with Charles as a result of the fallout from their differing opinions. After all, Magneto represents the dark mirror for Xavier if he choose a different path, and it works best if they are the same age. That's why First Class manages to keep the Holocaust backstory for Magneto because Xaiver is alive and around during the 60s in that film series.
Magneto being a Holocaust survivor might not have been there from the start, but like Batman not using guns anymore and having a No-Kill Code in contrast to his first appearance, it became pretty much the core of the character.
Early-Installment Weirdness at play here.
If you wanna see the classic, irredeemable Magneto being played straight, look at Ultimate Magneto.
Edited by Forenperser on Jul 25th 2021 at 11:36:23 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianAnd Ultimate Magneto is like the worst received version of the guy.
Hell Morrison tried to bring Magneto back to his evil unsympathetic terrorist roots and that resulted in the Xorn fiasco.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Legacy character Magneto would work great if you could figure out how his mutation somehow gets passed on from person to person.
Which isn't implausible but would need a Muc Guffin at somepoint. Preferably a macguffin which only works on mutants.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 24th 2021 at 8:03:34 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.