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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I always felt the Fox take on Magneto went too far in X2: X-Men United when he hijacks Stryker's plan so he could kill every human in the world. Like, that's a genocide that would easily reach the billions if he succeeded.
Maybe a decent take would have him start off having mutant supremacist views, but realize he's going too far and stop before he does anything too extreme. Have him become a more pragmatic figure who stands for mutants and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, but isn't an outright villain.
If he’s meant to be Xavier’s counterpart and also sympathetic just have him stand for an opposing but not supervillainous ideology.
He seems to like “then I’ll start my own” with Asteroid M and such so make that his thing. He doesn’t believe in peaceful coexistence. He’s not trying to destroy the world but will defend himself and his people
The X Men visit Asteroid or Island M depending, there’s some tension between Xavier and Magneto, there’s a scheme plot by someone like Cortez and maybe some human jerks in cahoots, and bam they have to work together but still believe their respective views at the end
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Exactly what they said. That Erik's attempts to protect mutants when people were only barely aware of them resulted in people's first exposure to mutants being him and his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants hijacking nukes and saying we're mutants and we're gonna take over.
They're some really bad optics to be honest. First impressions and all that.
Edit: Right, so maybe saying ALL anti mutant prejudice exists because of Magneto is naive, but again, he didn't give people who were probably on the fence a good first impression.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 24th 2021 at 5:05:31 AM
One Strip! One Strip!....so, which comes first in the timeline:
Black Widow, Black Panther, or Spiderman Homecoming?
And for that matter, what order do they even happen?
Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 24th 2021 at 5:17:01 AM
One Strip! One Strip!Its alphabetical.
But Black Widow happens like right after Civil War. Black Panther and Homecoming seem like there's more of a gap
Forever liveblogging the AvengersLooking back on some suggestions previously made in this thread (Gaon had suggested Palestinian), I kind of like the idea of Magneto being a sort of legacy character. Max Eisenhardt the man could be dead or extremely old, but Magneto lives on in every oppressed person who strikes back against their oppressors. He could be black or a Latin American immigrant, he could be Armenian, could be Rwandan, Igbo, or Somali. The mask and the motivation unites them as Magneto. The mask alone could make for a striking symbol.
Mind, I know that's not a take everyone would agree on. I doubt Marvel would actually try doing anything like that. But I think it'd be an interesting update.
@Handsome Rob...Doesn't the title "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" suggest that are, you know, non-evil mutants?
Also, a terrorist group attacks and it's assumed that all people of that demographic are part of it and want the same thing? You’d have to be that sort of person to make wide-sweeping assumptions in the first place.
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 24th 2021 at 5:56:37 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.It does, but most in-universe people probably wouldn't think that. Plus, They were called the "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" back in those days because they needed a bad guy name. It's only years later they tried to justify it, kinda like people trying to justify why the Decepticons called themselves the Decepticons.
.....also a thing that happens in real life. You're not wrong, and it's not fair, but still. Eric probably did hurt his cause a lot in those early days, even if judging all mutants by his actions is unfair.
Also, why am I explaining this? I'm not even the one who brought up the point. I'm just the one who tried to clarify what I thought the original poster was trying to say.
One Strip! One Strip!Technically, they could simply roll with "Magneto" referring to his personal magnetism after Erik's death, so any charismatic leader of mutantkind could be a "Magneto".
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1. “Evil Mutants” doesn’t seem very inclusive and it shouldn’t take much to think about the distinction between just mutants and evil mutants.
Evil mutants want to kill people? Seems more explained by being evil, which they call themselves, rather then being mutants.
2. Eeehhh...those people who would make such a thing were already primed for it, so to speak. Any incident, minor to major (respectively speaking), would have been enough.
3. Because, Rob my boy, we’re fated to do this until the heat-death of the universe...or the death of one of us. It is our destiny.
Considering Magneto tried to leverage his “Magnetic Personality” as a actual power, not even Magneto.
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 24th 2021 at 6:29:08 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.So what you're saying is, I need to murder destiny.
Ok, thanks.
Getting serious,, the idea of Magneto as a legacy character is an interesting one. I'm almost curious to see them try it.
Like, as others have pointed out, only Exodus really came close to just that. And he's a very different character.
One Strip! One Strip!A very different, very confused character. Because he was written in the 90s when X-Men writing was less writing and more throwing out plot hooks and going 'eh? eh??' before getting distracted by a laser pointer.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersMaybe we could have the first X-Men movie set in the 60's or 70's or something? Have (at the very least) the core team transported to the future like what happened in the comics a few years ago?
You could easily shoehorn in whatever bullshit reason led to no one knowing about mutants until now, and have an accurate origin for Magneto (maybe have him go to the future too, maybe legacy character, whatever).

I dont mind the idea of magneto wondering if he got to far or even entreteing the idea because when someone fight so far the risk you have gone so far is something it should be said.
no equating with the nazis? no, that is way to much.
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