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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#130276: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:49:33 PM

> We still don’t know the basic plot of Eternals.

Well they released a trailer which gave us a rough idea of what to expect, ancient aliens mostly.The Eternals feels like an experiment in seeing how far they push obscure comic characters

"If it works,then great let's gp deeper!If it fails..let's just stick to mainstream stuff ok?"-Disney/Marvel,probably

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#130277: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:52:35 PM

I feel like that ship sailed with the success of Guardians to be honest.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130278: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:52:51 PM

[up]*3: TLJ's backlash was, effectively, fans who had been led to believe that the story was going one way then revolting because the story was not only not going in the way they believed, but was - in some regards - going in the opposite direction. This led to a galvanizing effect that caused the fanbase to attempt to deify Abrams for supposedly doing the things they wanted (though, as TROS showed, this wasn't actually the case), and being denied this dream by the demonized Johnson who was trying to destroy the fanbase or whatever, eventually creatively reinterpet everything in both movies to fit that ideology (as well as take their fan rage out on other parts of the franchise). Those backlashes, thus, went in an extreme direction, yes, but the inciting factors were effectively the same.

If NWH came out and, say, wasn't in the slightest the second Spider-Verse film people are now so invested in seeing, especially given the Wandavision backlash's reaction to - surprise surprise - that show being about Wanda and the intro into chaos magic and not a vehicle to introduce Mephisto -> prequel to Dr. Strange or Spidey, it's definitely not unreasonable to be cautious about people unnecessarily reacting badly.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2021 at 3:10:39 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#130279: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:56:09 PM

The only definitive reason I see so far to believe NWH might involve a multiverse is the reveal that Doc Ock in this film is literally the same guy from Raimi’s Spider-Man 2. Everything else, speculation.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130280: Jul 21st 2021 at 3:09:56 PM

And even that is weird, because we've also been told Electro isn't the same guy, and Molina makes it clear he doesn't really know what's going on (for one, he doesn't really seem to understand that the Raimi movies and the MCU are not in the same continuity).

As described to him it simply says that his story begins with the Raimi Ock's final scene without clarification - for all we know, he was told that NWH Ock is a Broad Strokes adaptation of 3 Ock with the same general story. Molina doesn't seem to especially care either way.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2021 at 3:12:25 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#130281: Jul 21st 2021 at 3:39:44 PM

How long was it before the trailer to Endgame dropped? Four months before the film came out? Hell, we didn't even know the title of the damn film before then.

Assuming No Way Home is following the same pattern, I can expect a trailer to pop up around August.

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#130282: Jul 21st 2021 at 3:56:48 PM

[up][up] And who knows what his NDA allows him to say at this point...

Okey Dokey!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#130283: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:07:42 PM

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes needs a revival

But again, the new studio will be more interested in creating something new.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#130284: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:09:58 PM

I am in the mood for a new X-Men cartoon. They get stuff back, might as well use it.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#130285: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:10:43 PM

Oh boy did you say Xmen cartoon I thought you said Wolverine show with Wolverine and friends

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130286: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:14:40 PM

That was literally the last X-Men cartoon.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130287: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:26:38 PM

Holy crap, was Wolverine and the X-Men literally the last time we ever had an X-Men animated series. That was forever ago.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130288: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:29:11 PM

Wait no the actual last X-Men cartoon was the X-Men anime Marvel commissioned from Madhouse along with the Wolverine, Iron Man, and Blade anime.

Which was still 10 years ago so till a long-ass time.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:29:32 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#130289: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:29:14 PM

Deadpool will get a new show first

Just Makima.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130290: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:29:50 PM

That got canceled though........

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#130291: Jul 21st 2021 at 4:47:11 PM

That was literally the last X-Men cartoon

Funny thing is it was originally supposed to be a Wolverine solo show.

Edited by Cortez on Jul 22nd 2021 at 7:56:21 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130292: Jul 21st 2021 at 5:38:35 PM

[up]By FX. They have no power here.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#130293: Jul 21st 2021 at 6:15:02 PM

I'd much rather have a Wolverine show and an X-Men show without Wolverine in it than an X-Men show focusing on Wolverine. Logan can make cameos in the X-Men show from time to time, but he shouldn't be a major character in it.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130295: Jul 21st 2021 at 6:51:04 PM

Man that show handled Logan well.

He still got focus sure but it was too the same extent as everyone else.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130296: Jul 21st 2021 at 6:52:11 PM

The perfect Logan.

This uncle/mentor who likes to sit to keep to himself unless someone needs help or his past comes to knocking.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#130297: Jul 21st 2021 at 7:00:01 PM

And it had him know Captain America pre-freeze. More of that in future adaptations, please.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#130298: Jul 21st 2021 at 7:04:25 PM

To be fair, Evolution came out shortly after the first Fox movie, so it was before Logan really blew up as a character.

Plus, the series was more focused on the younger members anyway. It's ironically the only series where the Scott, Jean, Logan Love Triangle was non-existent too.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130299: Jul 21st 2021 at 7:07:32 PM

It helps that Jean is a high-school there.

Though that didn't stop Ultimate Logan. Thankfully Scott blasted his face off, kicked him off the team, and Jean made to threatened to mentally destroy him if he ever thought of her again.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#130300: Jul 21st 2021 at 10:49:16 PM

I rather enjoyed that Evolution had Steve and Magneto know each other because of WWII. Also, that Steve was voiced by none other than David Hayter.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jul 22nd 2021 at 6:44:11 AM


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