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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#130251: Jul 21st 2021 at 11:52:33 AM

In total fairness the rumor mill has been grinding about Cox cameoing in NWH for months. I can't even remember what started it initially because it's just been blended in with all the other "open secrets" about the movie.

Plus, and it's totally a super-dangerous game to play, but Cox doesn't exactly have the busiest filmography so him needing to suddenly bail a con due to film conflicts is...weird.

All said and done, the problem isn't speculation in and of itself, it's that people lately have gotten surprisingly bad at keeping grounded and losing themselves in the sauce and thrashing when the guessing game goes wrong. Just keep the MST3K Mantra in your head and hype responsibly. [lol]

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#130252: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:04:07 PM

Per Deadline, Josh Segarra joins She-Hulk.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130253: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:06:19 PM

Whose he playing?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#130254: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:07:48 PM

No word yet. We know Jen's a lawyer, so maybe a DA who moonlights as a Serial Killer? grin

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#130255: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:10:34 PM

Honestly, I'm being reminded of those people who thought Mephisto would be in WandaVision. (This is about that whole thing with the Cox rumor mill)

Edited by dmcreif on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:12:55 AM

Okey Dokey!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130257: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:21:09 PM

He could be playing a recast Absorbing Man. With Titania in the series, it's kind of inevitable that that would happen.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#130258: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:21:13 PM

[up][up][up] At least the Mephisto mill had faulty interpretations of a trailer shot and details within the show. The Murdock mill has nothing besides the word of "leakers" to work with.

Edited by Watchtower on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:21:23 AM

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#130259: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:23:18 PM

Someone please compile me a complete list of NWH rumors.

Okey Dokey!
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#130260: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:23:38 PM

Allegedly, a few theaters are using fan-made posters to promote No Way Home as we speak.

The absolute thirst for this movie's existence, and the only thing on my mind is the shock that it's coming out this year, rather than 2022.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:24:03 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130261: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:25:06 PM

[up]The fact that it's the middle of July and we have no teaser yet is admittedly something of a surprise. There were rumors (because of course there were) that they wanted to wait until Loki wrapped up before delivering them. Granted, if we were having a regular comic con and not the CC at home that all the big studios noped out of, odds are very good the trailer would have gotten a big Hall 1-A debut.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130262: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:25:43 PM

Tempting Fate their I see...

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130263: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:30:58 PM

[up]Studios love their big premieres, but we knew for months now that every studio worth their salt had said no thanks to CC at home, and even the ones that said yes are just going over older material. Netflix is just talking about old projects, for example, instead of say, announcing the cast of the Gundam movie.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130264: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:31:16 PM

NWH desperately needs a comprehensive trailer, especially since it's coming out relatively soon. I get the impression Disney is sitting on their silence because they think all the speculation is generating hype that they might quash if they give anything solid.

They did something similar for The Last Jedi, iirc.

Someone please compile me a complete list of NWH rumors.

In short, if a character exists in a Marvel movie or property that isn't an MCU marvel movie or property, it's a rumor.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2021 at 1:31:43 AM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#130265: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:54:20 PM

Just trying to remember off the top of my head... the other two Spider-Men, some of their respective villains, and Daredevil were the big ones.

Some people have really got into theorizing so much they'll inevitably be disappointed. Even if some of those rumours are true, there's no way they'll all be true.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#130267: Jul 21st 2021 at 1:57:44 PM

[up]No, no, no. MCU quality Supaidaman -

(He's confirmed for Spider-Verse II at least)

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#130268: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:04:51 PM

Maybe they were waiting for the season finale of Loki (2021), if the film does go in the multiverse direction.

Lord, I remember back when the first trailer for Far From Home hit, and people were speculating whether it was supposed to take place before Infinity War because Endgame hadn't come out yet.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#130269: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:36:38 PM

Michaela Coel from I May Destroy You and The Last Jedi has been cast in Wakanda Forever as...someone.

I'm going to scream if she's Storm. (In a good way.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 21st 2021 at 5:39:43 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130270: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:37:24 PM

I'm not convinced it is a multiverse movie, tbh, since the vast majority of "news" that implies it is has turned out to be fake or misrepresented - right from the very beginning and the first "clues" that made people start theorizing it. I do think it might be a Sinister Six film, though.

I think people are so invested in this is being Dr. Strange 1.5 and not a Spider-Man movie that it's feeding into these rumor mills' clickbait attempts to get them to believe anything, though.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2021 at 2:40:58 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130271: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:38:41 PM

Man I hate how Disney is so secretive of these movies.

We still don’t know the basic plot of Eternals.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#130272: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:39:43 PM

Michaela Coel

[SLAMS "I'M IN" BUTTON]

Kneejerk post aside, the tweet where I found this out also had a bunch of people in the comments speculating Storm. While I'm always been iffy on introducing Black Panther/Storm (as it reeked of Token Minority Couple), obviously that ship has sailed, but I will lower expectations for any X-People coming in.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:44:24 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130273: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:41:07 PM

[up][up] The reason I brought up The Last Jedi is because they're really making the same mistake they made there. Giving us no information and letting us fill in the cracks because hype puts butts in seats, without giving any regard to the fact that the lack of official info plus letting rumor mills control the narrative of the film just leads us to believe the movie is going to be an outright different film than it actually is - thus leading to an unfair fan backlash because, naturally, fans these days react badly in mob mentalities just from being wrong (see also, Wandavision).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2021 at 2:41:51 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#130274: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:42:36 PM

NWH desperately needs a comprehensive trailer, especially since it's coming out relatively soon. I get the impression Disney is sitting on their silence because they think all the speculation is generating hype that they might quash if they give anything solid.

Wait, isn't NWH pretty much Sony's movie to market and make trailers for? (Honestly asking, because I might be wrong.)

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#130275: Jul 21st 2021 at 2:46:48 PM

[up][up] I doubt No Way Home will be as bad as TLJ though, which is another key part of that movie's reception. It wasn't all just overhyped fans.

Edited by FGHIK on Jul 21st 2021 at 4:47:00 AM


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