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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#130201: Jul 19th 2021 at 1:51:03 PM

@Synchronicity: Islamic cultures and Vampires intersect a fair bit in the lore of Vampire: The Masquerade (and affiliated franchises), but that's indeed the only one I can think of.

It'd be a fascinating angle, I agree. I have my doubts if Marvel/Disney has the cojones to go for it, but as just mentioned, they are doing a at least nominally a Muslim heroine very soon and this project does seem to be relatively "auteur" (renowned actor Mahersha Ali and two people known for extremely socially engaged works as director and screenwriter) so there's higher odds than usual.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#130202: Jul 19th 2021 at 2:19:34 PM

It'd be cool if the new Blade movie was rated-R like the original trilogy, but I'm doubtful that the MCU will stray from a PG-13 route after the end of the Netflix shows.

I know there's still talk about the next Deadpool movie maintaining it's R-rating, so it's not entirely out of the question. I just hope we can have something matching the blood rave sequence from the first film.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#130203: Jul 19th 2021 at 2:21:53 PM

Mogul Mowgli must've been really great for Marvel to swipe up its director for Blade. I take it no one's seen or heard of it until now?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 19th 2021 at 5:22:09 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#130204: Jul 19th 2021 at 2:39:45 PM

It was one of the festival-circuit films that debuted to a demure release mid-pandemic. Probably a better sense when it comes out in the US in September.

Googling it, Riz Ahmed is always one to watch, and two of the actresses play off each other in the very delightful We Are Lady Parts.

[down][gestures at avatar] D'oh!

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 19th 2021 at 5:26:48 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#130205: Jul 19th 2021 at 3:26:09 PM

About Muslim vampires: he's not a vampire but Isaac is a Muslim that agrees with what Dracula is doing to the point that he's one of his main lackeys.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#130206: Jul 19th 2021 at 3:42:02 PM

Isaac is a real cool character in that show especially.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 19th 2021 at 3:43:26 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#130207: Jul 19th 2021 at 4:21:37 PM

Comics have a very interesting thing with religious symbols and vampires, and that's that they all work. Depending on the user's religion and vampire's (usually) former religion.

For example, David's Star is only effective in the hands of a religious Jew (and it's strength depends on the strength of user's faith), and, while it will slightly weaken all vampires, it's really going to hurt a vampire who used to be a religious Jew himself. Wonder if they'll adapt that.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#130208: Jul 19th 2021 at 4:22:19 PM

Hell no,that's..no,just no.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#130209: Jul 19th 2021 at 4:38:26 PM

It's kind of odd since that implies it's not an actual supernatural effect of the deity involved, but the power of belief itself.

StrixObscuro from Somewhere in Massachusetts Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#130210: Jul 19th 2021 at 5:22:01 PM

I'm trying to think of any intertwining of Islam and vampires in pop culture and am coming up blanknote , so that would definitely be a unique spin.

There was a movie some years back, A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, about a town in Iran being stalked by a vampire. I haven't seen it, though.

By now, it should be clear to all except the most dense of us that sheep are secretly conspiring to kill us all and steal our pants.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#130211: Jul 19th 2021 at 5:25:10 PM

I actually checked Religious Vampire.

And most of the examples were catholic or Jewish.

Islamic vampires don't seen to be quiet common.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
_(o)_
#130212: Jul 19th 2021 at 6:57:33 PM

As a muslim, I would love to see a vampire muslim but I dont want it to be half-assed too. I dont want him to just be dressed in muslim garbs.

The Final Name
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#130213: Jul 20th 2021 at 12:06:38 AM

The comics version of Dracula has been portrayed as a particularly virulent Islamaphobe on occasion, as he is supposedly the same Vlad Tepes who fought the Ottoman Empire.

But I don't think Big Drac himself is due to appear in the new Blade.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#130214: Jul 20th 2021 at 3:26:00 AM

He's more often portrayed as racist. Against Roma in particular.

He is a European count, after all.

Edited by djoki996 on Jul 20th 2021 at 3:26:42 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#130215: Jul 20th 2021 at 7:15:17 AM

Vampires are interesting as a concept because practically every culture on the planet has independently made their own unique versions of the idea. I'd be dope if Blde actually delved into that some.

You could definitely have, say, a Muslim vampire from Eurasia based on Persian stories or the origins of Lilith, or even from India based on the monster in "King Vikram and the Vampire."

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 20th 2021 at 7:20:40 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#130216: Jul 20th 2021 at 7:18:36 AM

I recall the Blade anime having something like that. There was an episode dealing with Filipino vampire-like monsters.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#130217: Jul 20th 2021 at 7:30:40 AM

Jiangshi are a classic one, since they're... different to say the least.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#130218: Jul 20th 2021 at 9:46:46 AM

So, the Loki series (and the upcoming What If show) have me thinking a lot about the potential for alternate worlds.

We could see a world where Ego ultimately did decide to abandon his assimilation plan and stay with Meredith. Maybe we'll get a world where Titan was never destroyed, or a world where Strange decided to wait until he wasn't on the road driving at super fast speeds to check his phone.

Hell, maybe we'll get a world where Hela was successfully convinced not to be a tyrant by Odin.

Sky's the damn limit on this.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#130219: Jul 20th 2021 at 9:58:03 AM

Marvel is going to put how it should have ended out of business

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#130220: Jul 20th 2021 at 10:03:19 AM

Unles they make HISHEs for What Ifs.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#130221: Jul 20th 2021 at 10:04:24 AM

Just declare that How It Should Have Ended is canon.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#130222: Jul 20th 2021 at 11:36:51 AM

Fuck it. We have the multiverse. Everything is canon now.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#130223: Jul 20th 2021 at 11:41:48 AM

Oh shit, even the fanfic ideas I haven't written down yet are canon??

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#130224: Jul 20th 2021 at 11:44:25 AM

What does "infinity" mean to you?

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon

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