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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#129976: Jul 14th 2021 at 11:27:51 PM

My problem with his outfit is really quite petty.

I don't like that both him and Thanos prominently feature purple. It makes me compare the two more than I probably should, especially since Kang seems to be taking over Thanos' role as the grand, overarching final boss of the MCU.

Edited by GNinja on Jul 14th 2021 at 6:29:17 PM

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#129977: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:03:54 AM

I have bad news then about Galactus. tongue

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129978: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:05:46 AM

Wow Marvel really does use purple too much.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#129979: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:11:55 AM

They had a whole thing one time where the kids in the Future Foundation broke down the use of color in heroic versus villainous individuals as part of an extended pseudo-meta conversation about comic characters. Green and purple are by far the most common colors for villains.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jul 15th 2021 at 3:14:27 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#129980: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:16:23 AM

Purple, Yellow and Green are evil coded colours in classic comics.

Look at Spider-Man's classic rogue gallery and you'll see half of them wear green.

Vision is the colours that he is because he was initially meant to look eeeeevil.

Likewize Hawkeye started off as a villain so he wears tones of purple.

The Hulk is also green but that's due to a printing error that stuck, but it fits his anti hero role.

Other than them you don't see many classic heroes wearing those colours.

Almost all the classic heroes wear red and or blue, with black of all things as well.

Edited by Whowho on Jul 15th 2021 at 8:17:01 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#129981: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:40:59 AM

Honestly, if the writer team know what they are doing, then clearly DOOM will be the MCU's next Big Bad.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#129982: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:41:51 AM

Doom usurping Kang and taking his power would be very in-character.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#129983: Jul 15th 2021 at 12:59:27 AM

I just hope they actually manage to pull off Doom's comic book cheese.

Like that's his entire appeal and attempts to make him more grounded will fail.

His name is Dr. Doom after all.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#129984: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:06:14 AM

Doom and Kang are both viable MCU big bads, but currently I want the avengers to be dealing with a smaller threat after Endgame. Let which ever big bad stew some irons in the fire for a while and give us a more down to earth Avengers 5, have then tackle the masters of evil or something.

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#129985: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:06:49 AM

I feel like, after the two previous attempts to make Doom more of a typical supervillain were horribly botched, the MCU will know better and adapt him faithfully.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129986: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:09:10 AM

[up][up] We do need time to set-up a proper new Avengers.

Give Sam more experience with the shield, bring in Iron Man's successor, and just generally get some new blood up to speed like Shang-Chi.

And then there's the Fantastic Four and whatever they Hell they are gonna do with the X-Men.

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#129987: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:13:00 AM

I really hope the next Avengers film is about fighting a supervillain team created by Thunderbolt Ross. That's something we haven't seen on screen before, a battle between a superhero team and a supervillain team.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129988: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:19:20 AM

Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers man, Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#129989: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:23:18 AM

Given the current slate and the assumption that the next Avengers film is after all of those films, who would people have on their New Avengers roster?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#129990: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:24:23 AM

New Avengers: Squadron Supreme

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129991: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:25:56 AM

Oh they are an option too. Especially since we are bringing in the multiverse, the Squadron Supreme are a possibility.

Really want a show or movie about them that delves into the original stories theme of idea of whether superhumans can truly bring a utopian world by enforcing it.

My only note there is hopefully Power Princess gets a design that elevates her from blatant Wonder Woman rip-off.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 15th 2021 at 1:26:53 AM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#129992: Jul 15th 2021 at 1:47:24 AM

We have a trope for villains in purple and green (and orange): Secondary-Color Nemesis

I have a question too. Kang is pronounced like "Kong", right?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#129993: Jul 15th 2021 at 2:39:43 AM

Can you imagine the salt if Squadron Supreme shows up and the MCU does the Justice League better than the actual DC?

I mean, the Squadron Supreme are basically Lawyer friendly Justice League.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 15th 2021 at 5:40:17 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129994: Jul 15th 2021 at 2:45:03 AM

Not only that but the Squadron actually does delve into does deep themes so not only could Marvel surpass DC in a Justice League film, but with a "mature" Justice League film that some people tout the DCEU Justice League films as.

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#129995: Jul 15th 2021 at 3:36:54 AM

Squadron Supreme being Marvel's justice league might raise a few eyebrows since they already have the Avengers,and being blatantly identical to justice league would be a hard sell I think

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#129996: Jul 15th 2021 at 3:56:25 AM

Squadron Supreme can't do Justice League "better" than DC anymore than Doom Patrol can do X-Men better than Marvel.

Edited by windleopard on Jul 15th 2021 at 4:39:16 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#129997: Jul 15th 2021 at 4:35:44 AM

[up] It's just idle musing from me personally.

I don't really care about the whole Marvel vs DC rivalry.

But the arguments online can get delightfully absurd.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#129998: Jul 15th 2021 at 5:21:53 AM

I have a question too. Kang is pronounced like "Kong", right?

Kang is pronounced to rhyme with Rang or Sang.

Edited by jakobitis on Jul 15th 2021 at 1:23:17 PM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#129999: Jul 15th 2021 at 5:26:32 AM

I just think Squadron Supreme is good for comparing idealistic and cynical takes on the same topic. It's in much the same vein that I enjoy Superman Vs the Elite.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#130000: Jul 15th 2021 at 11:09:44 AM

[up][up] Awww, I thought it was a play on "con"querer.


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