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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Canon concerns aside:
- Luke Cage won an Emmy for Stunt Coordination
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- Jessica Jones won for Best Original Title Theme
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Meanwhile, the Marvel Television era
of MCU shows have received a range or 1-3 nominations per series.
It should also be said that Marvel is notorious for doing non-to-small campaigns for the Oscars or other awards.
I think it was for the first Avengers movie that Disney intended to do campaign for it and putting the bill themselves, but Marvel preferred to not campaign and use the money for their productions. This was originally thought to be philosophy of notorious cheapskate Ike Perlmutter, but even after he lost control they've kept that rule and barely do any campaign for awards, with BP being the notable exception.
The Oscars really are bullshit.
I found out recently for The Rise of Skywalker they had to actually change their scoring on a movies musical scores to force TROS into the category because it’s entire soundtrack was just remixes of OT tracks.
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 13th 2021 at 11:33:34 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I mean, which MCU movies do you think deserve Oscars? And for what categories?
The MCU just doesn't feel like that kind of series to me. They're created with almost machine-like efficiency and seem designed to be crowd-pleasers first and foremost. That's not to say they don't have themes or artistry to them, but rarely do I find myself thinking that an MCU film, even the ones I love, are operating at the peak of cinema that the Oscars are supposed to represent.
Kaze ni Nare!The Oscars are a Hollywood circle-jerk with increasingly little relevance to what actually draws people to see movies.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"...So...then...who cares, I guess? If we're just dismissing them outright then this conversation is...rather pointless?
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Good question, anyway, G.
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 13th 2021 at 3:32:00 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Yeah, I don't give a shit about the Oscars or the people who award them, and I don't get why anybody else does.
Even putting aside the arthouse snobbery they're notorious for, who gives a fuck about their opinions? What makes them more entitled to award a film than your average moviegoer?
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!![]()
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Is that what the Oscars SHOULD be about though?
For the record, I roll my eyes at the clear biases that the Academy clearly does have, but let's say, in a completely idealized world where the Oscars are perfect, what should they prioritize? Should they reflect the most popular movies? Or the movies that explicitly aim to be more than popular?
Edited by GNinja on Jul 13th 2021 at 10:36:12 AM
Kaze ni Nare!Unpopular opinion (for this thread): accepting that awards shows are messed up and out of touch is part of the fun of awards show season. It's kind of like watching Nailed It! where you know nothing matters but you want your favorites to win anyway.
Popular opinion: Don Cheadle showing up for two minutes of TFATWS for a fun cameo and getting an Emmy nomination for it is sending me.
Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 13th 2021 at 5:49:51 AM
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That is basically my stance. I fully accept that the Oscars are an out of touch circle jerk (this discussion has been going at least since the 1980s, when Do the Right Thing infamously got snubbed due to not appealing to the mostly older white voting block), but I can't really think of any MCU movies that were robbed of awards. They are frequently nominated in well deserved technical categories like special effects, costume design, makeup and production, but in most instances there are better movies and better performances each year.
Like, I loved Josh Brolin as Thanos, but I'd be very hard pressed to say he was the best actor in all of 2018.

Edit: And this pagetopper goes to...not trying to sound as judgmental as it sounds!
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 13th 2021 at 10:22:24 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.