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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129901: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:09:25 PM

[up][up] Oh yeah especially the whole tidbit about Deadpool killing Phil Coulson somehow making him a persona-nongrata to the superhero community.

Another thing about Tasky I remember (especially cause its among the first comics I read) is that in Avengers Academy Finesse who has similar mimic powers goes to Tasky because she believes he could be her father.

They fight for a bit and while Tasky does believe he could be her father he'll ultimately forget the conversation and her because all her moves are copied same as his, so there's nothing for him to remember.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2021 at 2:09:53 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#129902: Jul 12th 2021 at 2:14:04 PM

Yeah. I've brought up the Finesse thing a few times.

Spoilers for Black Widow: I originally thought Antonia was Finesse or rather that they combined the two since they do more or less have the same powers. While I eventually guessed that Taskmaster was really Dreykov's daughter, before The Reveal, I still think they took some aspects of Finesse, even if only her gender.

One Strip! One Strip!
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#129903: Jul 12th 2021 at 4:37:13 PM

Oh, no. Finesse is much more powerful, having the same enhanced mental processing as, say, Captain America, plus photographic reflexes.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129904: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:10:08 PM

Huh well that’s a generational improvement.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#129905: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:12:10 PM

Oh shit. That is something.

One Strip! One Strip!
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#129906: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:18:04 PM

Mind you, officially, at least, while enhanced mental processing are a huge improvement to photographic reflexes, photographic reflexes aren't all that much of a bonus to emp, since Cap can already learn new fighting styles in a manner of minutes.

Again, officially. Usually, it depends on the writer.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129907: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:25:56 PM

It mostly helps make you a ditto fighter which admitably is more of an antagonist benefit than for a protagonist.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#129908: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:31:32 PM

One of the funniest bits from Taskmaster's last run is when it turns out he can copy moves but he doesn't learn the names of the moves so his brain calls them nothing more than "That Punch I Saw One Time" or "That Kick Iron Fist Uses".

djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#129909: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:36:16 PM

[up][up] Not necessarily true, Echo has the identical power, but she has been a hero for most of her history.

It's useful for pretty much everyone.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129910: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:37:50 PM

[up][up] Hes lucky then cause IF's attack moves tend to be quite the mouthful.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#129911: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:39:40 PM

Why even name their attacks? It's almost as cheesy as Betsy constantly explaining what she's doing with her powers... while using her powers on her enemies.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129912: Jul 12th 2021 at 5:53:14 PM

For IF cause hes a martial artist so he and the Immortal Weapons have these esotetic attack names you see in Chinese martial arts.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2021 at 5:53:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#129913: Jul 12th 2021 at 6:11:17 PM

So, watched Black Widow.

It was okay. As others said in this thread, the action scenes and non-action scenes felt pretty disconnected. It felt like I was watching two different movies and changing the channel between them. The action scenes also felt a little more toothless than I was expecting from a movie about Black Widow, compared to some of her action scenes from Winter Soldier.

Black Widow's family were great. The banter between Natasha and Yelena was funny, and Red Guardian is such an awful-yet-lovable person. I hope to see them again in future titles, and am looking forward to Yelena mistakenly(?) going after Hawkeye.

As for Taskmaster... He's my biggest gripe with the movie, by far. The twist of her being Dreykov's daughter was cool (if a little predictable; process of elimination left her as the only possibility pretty fast), but my god does she feel wasted. Due to her situation she has no personality whatsoever. She barely gets any actual scenes, and the few she does are almost entirely just trailer footage we already saw. Most of her fight with Papa Widow is off-screen, and her final "battle" with Nat consists of a single grapple before Nat crushes the vial and frees her. Her actual mimickry power barely even gets utilized and is never explained. I wanted cocky mercenary-for-hire Taskmaster with cool powers, not Diet Diet Bucky. Very disappointing. Almost Malekith-tier "how did you fuck up adapting this character to the movies" disappointing.

I still enjoyed my time with the film but it did feel weaker than most of its Phase 3 predecessors. Glad to hear it's doing well at the box office, though.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jul 12th 2021 at 9:34:45 AM

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#129914: Jul 12th 2021 at 7:29:59 PM

So they butchered Taskmaster seems to be the popular take but everything else was just-ok.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#129915: Jul 12th 2021 at 8:28:12 PM

I would like to remind people we have a spoiler thread for Black Widow.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129916: Jul 12th 2021 at 8:35:48 PM

[up][up][up] Oh fuck I waa actually thinking of Ghost but no yeah Diet-Winter Soldier is a better comparison for her.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2021 at 8:36:06 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#129917: Jul 13th 2021 at 9:28:22 AM

Deadpool and Korg React to the Free Guy trailer.

It begins. evil grin

If this is what Disney's letting Reynolds get away with then his movie appearances are going to be fiiiiiiine.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#129919: Jul 13th 2021 at 9:56:30 AM

This is the best. Thing. Ever. Holy shit!

The Deadpool reaction, I mean. [up][up]

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2021 at 12:56:45 PM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#129920: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:10:49 AM

It got a whole bunch of nominations, chances are good that it’ll win at least a few.

The legend has returned.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#129921: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:12:05 AM

[up][up][up] What's up with the MCU and not winning Oscars?

I don't really follow award events.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#129922: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:14:41 AM

Its simple really,the Oscars look down on superhero movies they do

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#129923: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:17:23 AM

They look down on everything that's not their preferred niche of hardcore depressing period dramas.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#129924: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:18:03 AM

[up] I guess that's why Joker won an Oscar?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#129925: Jul 13th 2021 at 10:20:18 AM

Reminder that Black Panther won three Oscars for Original Score, Production Design and Costume Design.

Also, we're talking about the Emmys, not the Oscars regarding the Marvel Studio shows. They don't share committees.


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