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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#129801: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:34:57 PM

We need to fight memes... with memes.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129802: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:35:46 PM

Memes, the DNA of the Soul.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#129803: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:36:02 PM

That sounds like a recipe for Armageddon if I ever heard one.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#129804: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:36:33 PM

[up]X5 I did laugh. And then they ruined stuff.

They are good for a few chuckles. That can't be denied, but I truly do believe most memes end up perpetuating the wrong ideas about certain shows and characters. They are basically the embodiment of Flanderization and Never Live It Down.

....but if you know some funny ones, feel free to tell them.cool

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 10th 2021 at 9:37:05 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#129805: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:37:46 PM

Little known fact, the M in MCU stands for Memes.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#129806: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:38:11 PM

[up][up]Ruin is in the eye of the beholder, Tob.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 10th 2021 at 9:44:04 AM

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#129807: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:42:02 PM

I'm late but yeah, Thanos is the biggest Fountain of Memes in the franchise hands down. It's certainly a credit to Brolin and the CG department for instilling the character with the sheer menace and gravitas he needed to leave a mark.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129808: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:45:51 PM

There’s also the fact that that letting memes dictate the media is just a waste.

Like with Green Lantern, the franchise has a lot to offer with various compelling characters and stories so it’s quite honestly asinine to waste all that in favor of just portraying Hal Jordan as some try hard loser because of one bad movie.

The prospect of a Power Man and Iron Fist movie/show is worth far than some shitty “Iron Fist sucks” meme. The latter is inherently worthless.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#129809: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:49:57 PM

Hey, it only took Aquaman... *checks watch*... 45 years to live down his depiction from Superfriends. Wait until 2062, and then we might finally be able to take Iron Fist seriously again.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129810: Jul 10th 2021 at 9:59:53 PM

Supergirl and Steel are also currently doing well after the live-action debuts of those terrible movies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#129811: Jul 10th 2021 at 10:22:06 PM

I wouldn't mind Finn Jones reprising his role as Danny Rand. He was good in Season 2 once he had a little more acting experience and a much better script to work with.

Also I'm just unhealthily attached to the Netflix shows and want them to continue exactly where they left off with the exact same actors, but I know that's just a shitty pipe dream. So sue me.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#129812: Jul 10th 2021 at 10:23:31 PM

[up]See you in the Court of Idle Fantasies a week from now.

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#129813: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:07:38 AM

I'm just a bit sad this current phase of the MCU doesn't really seem to have anything that appeals to me.

I think this is the first time that's happened.

Edited by GNinja on Jul 11th 2021 at 9:18:22 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#129814: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:24:18 AM

Think you are just burned out on this series.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#129815: Jul 11th 2021 at 2:49:34 AM

Honest question: Why do people hate the "I was sterilized and thus I'm a monster" line from Age of Ultron so much?

Like, I genuinely thought the whole point of that line was that Natalya was supposed to be in the wrong.

Kaze ni Nare!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#129816: Jul 11th 2021 at 3:05:50 AM

Because it came the fuck out of nowhere and it's really horrific?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#129817: Jul 11th 2021 at 3:08:03 AM

[up]But I thought the Red Room was supposed to be this horrific, traumatizing thing.

Kaze ni Nare!
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#129818: Jul 11th 2021 at 3:14:05 AM

It really comes across, intentionally or not, as Nat implying self loathing just because she can’t give birth, which I understand rubs lots of people who don’t wanna be parents wrong. I’m about to go to sleep atm but I’ll say Whedon for obvious reasons earns absolutely no benefit of the doubt, especially as of recent. He really hurt the character of Nat long-term, I feel.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#129819: Jul 11th 2021 at 3:14:53 AM

plus the hulk shipping with Black Widow,just wtf?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#129820: Jul 11th 2021 at 4:47:25 AM

[up][up] not just that but people who DO want to be parents but can't, for whatever reason. As written the monster is Natasha for being unable to have children, not the ones who rendered her infertile.

It's just a badly written line that was largely superfluous anyway. Nat already had self loathing, as per the "red in [her] ledger."

Edited by jakobitis on Jul 11th 2021 at 12:48:35 PM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129821: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:13:21 AM

[up][up] I remember watching a clip of Ultron and he totally used the same guy falls in womans boobs joke he used in Justice League with Flash and Wonder Woman.

In this case during Ultron's birth/first attack and while finding cover Bruce finds himself dropping into Nat's cleavage.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
DoubleOG (Apprentice)
#129822: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:25:51 AM

Those were low points in the movie, and I liked the movie.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#129823: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:31:14 AM

Day of Ultron was the worst of Marvel's quipfest and lack of real tension. Vision felt like a preview of Superman in Josstuice League curbstomping Ultron but at least the other Avengers pitched in though.

Edited by Mizerous on Jul 11th 2021 at 8:33:53 AM

Just Makima.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#129824: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:39:19 AM

I still like Age of Ultron tongue

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129825: Jul 11th 2021 at 5:45:05 AM

If there's one thing to bemoan about the MCU, is that we are effectively stuck with a single character interpretation for the foreseeable future.

Meaning Ultron will never have another chance to headline another movie again for the time being and actually be awesome.

Compared to say sure Leto-Joker was fucking abominable, but we're not stuck with that version.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 11th 2021 at 5:45:36 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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