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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The Uncle Ben who died was a Skrull. The real Uncle Ben took the opportunity to ditch his ball-and-chain of a wife and the dorkass kid he got stuck raising, and go live out his retirement hitting on twenty-something beach babes in Malibu.
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Okay, not really, but if you told me there was a comic where that happened, and then another comic where it was hastily retconned, I would 100% believe you.
It varies on the character, a lot of the time. X-Men are the reigning champions of characters coming back from the dead every other week. Daredevil on the other hand is known for a relatively strict policy of dead characters staying dead (Karen Page has been dead for over 20 years as far as I'm aware).
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maybe a character who uses something literally called the Phoenix Force is not someone to expect to stay dead.
Though cheap joke aside the X-Men and associates perpetually dying and coming back as infinitum is definitely a thing.
Maybe my favourite take on the whole thing in Marvel in general was Hammerhead (of all people) saying that yes, he did in fact die. But it sucked, so he came back. And IIRC that was it, subject closed.
Edited by jakobitis on Jun 26th 2021 at 11:11:42 AM
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."I think this is the Thomas from Flashpoint, who like an unwelcome Age of Apocalypse character ie most of them, made the jump back to the main continuity and has long worn out his welcome
Forever liveblogging the AvengersFlashpoint was a thing, The Flash broke time and among other things, we got a Thomas Wayne Batman who killed since Bruce was the victim of that Crime Alley mugging.
And Jor-El came back and was a massive jerk and that had effects many still want to be reversed.
At least can we keep the Flashpoint Martha away?
Edited by Blueace on Jun 26th 2021 at 6:16:41 AM
Wake me up at your own risk.@jakobits: the X-Men are the most prominent comics where you have to use the fantastic line "(X) was dead at the time" very often.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."It's one of the reasons I struggle to keep up with mainstream comics for long, particularly X Men but not exclusively.
As someone on the Autistic Spectrum the fact that people are constantly dead then back then dead again and trying to keep up with it all is extremely stressful. I appreciate that probably sounds absurd given the weird logical fallacies that superhero comics run on but it's a particular trigger of mine.
Whereas in the movies, dead has MOSTLY meant actually dead and the exceptions are both rare and more justified than "we came back from being dead just because."
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."X-Men feels particularly bad about it.
Jean Grey's reputation for it isn't really deserved but then you have stuff like when its revealed that Wolverine beats up the angel of death (who he met in World War I while fighting anachronistic Nazis) for free rezzes or Nightcrawler who literally learned to teleport out of the afterlife. By the time you get to Krakoa's easy resurrections its like yeah this tracks.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersKrakoa took death is cheap to its logixal conclusion by implementing an in-universe resurrection mechanic that explcitly brought everyone back barring specific characters like precogs and clones due to plot reasons.
Now the action is in circumvanting that like how the infiltration of the vault required someone to make a psionic backup in order for the missiob to be accomplished. If anyone died before Xavier backed them up the the mission would have been a failure and all the info lost.
Massive props to Synch for pulling the hail mary pass.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 26th 2021 at 5:02:30 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Hickman's X-Men IMO hinges too much on how much it contrasts with the X-Men's classic premise and its decades of storytelling. One could feasibly attempt it by leaning heavily into the Fox franchise and Pop Culture Osmosis for "context" but with how badly Fox got tangled in its own Continuity Snarl I'd honestly prefer a more back-to-basics approach, refocus it back to the team as a whole.
If there's any recent comic I think would be interesting exploring it'd be Immortal Hulk, and even then I wouldn't go anywhere close to the One-Below-All or the Green Doors. I'd just take the Immortal Hulk himself, use him as a bridge into an MCU take on Banner's fractured psyche.
Honest question from someone who has only read the first few issues of Immortal Hulk: isn't the whole Green Door thing the explanation for Banner's Resurrective Immortality? How would you try to explain the whole "he's immortal" deal without it?
Edited by Aleistar on Jun 27th 2021 at 12:04:09 PM
I've read exactly none of it and am only working off what I read online, so you have me there.
The Hulk is a Science Hero, while the Green Doors are fundamentally Doing in the Scientist by having it so that "gamma mutates" are actually spiritually connected to The Anti-God. I'd just keep it simple by not getting into the mysticism and just having him be effectively immortal due to the nature of his gamma mutation. I'm pretty sure it's like this in the book but it could even be that the Immortal Hulk persona has access to this immortality in a way that the others don't tap into as easily.
The MCU is fundamentally an Adaptation Distillation, and while comics can afford to get into the really weird shit movies and shows have to be a bit more to-the-point, y'know? And quite honestly I'm not so much interested in the immortality as I am in the chance of actually depicting Banner's Split Personalities.
It's not from comics, but the Reverse Flash of the arrowverse is a character who always manages to revive.
It is even assumed that by this point he should be Deader than Dead
Didn't the Reverse Flash get shot in the head in one of the cartoons, but then do Speedforce shenanigans to spend an entire second movie slowly dying from the bullet traveling through his brain or something?
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 28th 2021 at 10:27:13 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Do you all remember when Peter Parker's parents came back from the dead during the 90s?
Like it was 100% legit, and were even in Maximum Carnage. But then the writing staff really couldn't make Peter hanging out with his grumpy old parents interesting, so they were retconned into robots made by the Chameleon and Harry.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

He’s probably the only sacred dead cow left, depending on whether you count Mar-Vell
Bucky is back, Jason Todd is back
Forever liveblogging the Avengers