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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#129176: Jun 16th 2021 at 7:40:28 PM

I should note I wasn't really complaining. Just sort of saying that separate directors and writers will approach the characters differently.

Edited by Bullman on Jun 16th 2021 at 9:43:38 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#129177: Jun 16th 2021 at 7:41:50 PM

I don’t think there’s a problem with Spidey being a Tony fanboy in IW. He didn’t stop being one at the end of Homecoming.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#129178: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:06:08 PM

...Is Black Panther quippy in Avengers? None of his lines stood out to me as particularly quippy. If anything he feels quippier in his home film, due to getting more screentime and thus more lines.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#129179: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:10:22 PM

I might just be thinking of his bad shield quip.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#129180: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:34:53 PM

[up] "Someone get this man a shield" was bad to you?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129181: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:35:18 PM

I’m not sure that’s a quip.

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VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight
#129182: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:37:26 PM

Yeah, that's just him saying orders.

It'll be quippy if he did it mid-battle when Steve loses a shield or something like that

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#129183: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:38:02 PM

I feel like "MCU movies are too quippy" is an idea that has lost all meaning, with people accusing perfectly ordinary dialogue as being "quips". Both dialogue not meant to be funny and actual jokes that aren't particularly "quippy".

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jun 16th 2021 at 8:38:55 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#129184: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:39:55 PM

I mean it is a bad line to me. I remember him making more quips. I am probably misremembering. I still stand by him being underutilized.

Though again I was not complaining.

Edited by Bullman on Jun 16th 2021 at 10:43:02 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#129185: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:46:08 PM

[up][up]It does feel as though it's become a meaningless buzzword for people to express dissatisfaction when they can't properly articulate their actual grievances.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#129186: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:48:12 PM

I am a bit confused. When did I complain about quipping all together? I just said that I didn't like one line.

My one complaint was him being underutilized.

Edited by Bullman on Jun 16th 2021 at 10:52:07 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#129187: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:54:46 PM

T'Challa's pretty serious at all times when it comes to fights.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129188: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:56:11 PM

And the comedy in the BP movie is more your family and close associates know not to take you seriously much cause they know you for real.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#129189: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:58:20 PM

Okay I did say I was misremembering there. But again I am a bit confused where people are thinking I was complaining about quipping.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129190: Jun 16th 2021 at 8:59:07 PM

I think we’re just talking about general stuff now.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#129192: Jun 16th 2021 at 9:08:04 PM

The only difference I felt about T’challa and M’baku in Infinity War / Endgame was that it felt like they had very little to say beyond vague greetings. I presume that’s partly because Black Panther was being filmed just before those films.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#129193: Jun 16th 2021 at 9:55:07 PM

The most I can think BP ever actually quipped is probably "I don't care", which... isn't really a quip.

It's nowhere near something like Thor suddenly being incredibly quippy when he wasn't before in Ragnarok.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#129194: Jun 16th 2021 at 10:17:59 PM

I think people tend to mistakenly refer to any line of dialogue that's meant to be funny as "quippy". Strictly speaking, it's only a quip is deliberately making a quick joke. If the character's trying to be serious, then it's not a quip, even if the audience finds it funny.

For example, Thor seeing the Hulk in Ragnarok and going, "YES!! I know him! He's a friend from work!" Thor's not making a quip there, he's just genuinely delighted to run into a super-friend in this inhospitable environment.

Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#129195: Jun 16th 2021 at 10:53:42 PM

It's also not something he should just announce in front of the person enslaving him if he has an ounce of sense or self-control.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#129196: Jun 17th 2021 at 1:06:49 AM

To be fair to Thor after the epically shitty day he's just had I'm happy to forgive him a lapse of judgment at this point. Dude had been through a lot.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129197: Jun 17th 2021 at 1:09:31 AM

Hulk is pretty much the only familiar face he’s seen on Sakaar so of course he’d be overjoyed to find an Avenger.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#129198: Jun 17th 2021 at 1:52:29 AM

His very next move was to appeal to Hulk on teaming up and breaking out, so that might have been what he was thinking.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#129200: Jun 17th 2021 at 10:31:18 PM

So far so good. Now let's wait for the embiggening.

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