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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#129076: Jun 11th 2021 at 9:56:21 PM

How strong does Shang-Chi typically get with his anime martial arts? Like, Black Widow level? Captain America level? Iron Man level? Thor level? HULK level?!

I know DC's Karate Kid has ludicrous feats that approach Thor level.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#129077: Jun 12th 2021 at 12:46:33 AM

Without chi he can lift about twice his body weight. With chi he can enhance his strength to the point that he can punch through iron.

Basically, think of every superhuman feat you've seen in Kung fu media. Chances are Shang-Chi can do it.

Edited by M84 on Jun 13th 2021 at 3:48:18 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#129078: Jun 12th 2021 at 9:57:30 AM

So basically he's every Wuxia hero ever made, but specifically the Bruce Lee type, not the Jackie Chan type.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#129079: Jun 12th 2021 at 10:11:44 AM

[up]He was deliberately made to cash in on the 70s Kung Fu craze.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#129080: Jun 12th 2021 at 10:32:11 AM

It also means that, at least originally, the Bruce Lee focus meant he was a bit more “kung fu James Bond” than “mystical kung fu warrior,” with his realm being more low-fantasy spies and assassins than high-fantasy demigods and dragons. He eventually got folded more directly into into the super-mystical side because that’s what everything else martial arts in Marvel was doing.

Still, the more overt magical focus here is almost certainly a result of them choosing to replace Fu Manchu with The Mandarin.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#129081: Jun 13th 2021 at 9:46:25 AM

Like many characters, Shang Chi varies from writer to writer.

But he would say that with Chi he is on the same level as Spider-man.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129082: Jun 13th 2021 at 5:35:47 PM

So another Marvel game got announced today, Guardians of the Galaxy.

And of course it’s the exact same movie line-up.

So is there like some corporate mandate from Marvel or Disney? Like pretty much every Guardians product since the movie came out has rigidly stuck to this team.

The Guardians cartoon, the Guardians Telltale cartoon, their appearance Ultimate Alliance 3, it’s always this 5 and Quill always has the near exact same character design though out each thing.

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FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#129083: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:04:50 PM

Just going off the thumbnail... why is there a blue llama?

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#129084: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:15:52 PM

Didn't you see the blue lamma in the movies? C'mon, man, pay attention.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#129085: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:17:11 PM

Blue Llama based on the thumbnail is probably Teen Groots equally emo friend.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#129087: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:26:11 PM

What I don't get. Why does Quill always have the same design since the movie? The others at least change it up, but Quill always has the same one. It's not even that unique of a costume.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129088: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:29:28 PM

What makes it even more amusing is that he’s not even the most popular Guardian especially after Infinity War.

Yet he’s the one they always make sure looks identical to his actor Chris Pratt.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 13th 2021 at 6:50:54 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#129089: Jun 13th 2021 at 6:50:09 PM

Odd that it seems to be only playing with Starlord when he's probably the least popular of the whole crew.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#129090: Jun 13th 2021 at 7:49:04 PM

Judging by the trailer, Gamora will be more brutal, unlike telltale's game and the movies in which she is the moral member of the group.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#129091: Jun 13th 2021 at 8:05:32 PM

Man I'd love for a Got G game to be awesome, but after Avengers the hype just isn't all there.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#129092: Jun 13th 2021 at 8:15:08 PM

I think we can declare "Holding Out For a Hero" song of the month.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129093: Jun 13th 2021 at 8:16:44 PM

[up] Hell of a coincidence there. [lol]

And extended gameplay video for those curious.

Holy Hell Drax's markings, I just now noticed how weird it looks. About as off-putting as Quil's haircut.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 13th 2021 at 8:17:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#129094: Jun 13th 2021 at 10:10:52 PM

There are a number of character design choices I find questionable. Though I dont mind the team composition. It's the team everyone knows by now. Plus Dan Abnett is apparently involved and his run was what the movies took from the most.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#129095: Jun 14th 2021 at 1:49:29 AM

IIRC Comics!Gamora actually was rather more brutal than the MCU version. In fact for all that the Guardians are more dysfunctional in the MCU, the comics version of the team is even worse sometimes.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129096: Jun 14th 2021 at 2:05:53 AM

I remain eternally amused that the only reason she even joined the Guardians in the first place is cause Nova called her up for a post-victory booty call.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#129097: Jun 14th 2021 at 2:25:57 AM

[up] He didn't. She thought that was what he wanted and was pissed that he wasn't interested.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129098: Jun 14th 2021 at 2:35:53 AM

Oh man she was pissed, destroyed the room they were in. Though she did cheer when Nova said he'd be up for that booty call after she agreed to consider the Guardians.

Amusingly when Quill later joked about kissing her, she reacted with disgust to the thought.

The fact she spent most of the series as a duo with Adam Warlock really makes one wonder about how their gonna interact in Guardians 3.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#129099: Jun 14th 2021 at 6:13:02 AM

... also Mantis psychically manipulating them into being willing to join the team. That's a major part of how they were formed.

... I think of all the changes to the Guardians for the movie, Mantis was the best. Because comics Mantis was unfortunate as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. For all the flak the film version gets, the comic version was steeped in more racism and sexism which is... yikers.

Edited by Larkmarn on Jun 14th 2021 at 10:37:08 AM

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#129100: Jun 14th 2021 at 7:46:27 AM

So far I am liking the brutal Gamora.

The cinematic Gamora seemed a bit boring to me.


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