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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#129002: Jun 8th 2021 at 12:41:03 PM

Why not ?

Would be introducing a new region they could work with in the future.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#129003: Jun 8th 2021 at 12:44:29 PM

I demand Asshole Namor.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#129005: Jun 8th 2021 at 12:49:47 PM

I mean. They made Klaue one of the most weirdly charming villains in the series (and then killed him), turned M'Baku into into an awesome heroic figure, and Killmonger a sympathetic extremist who genuinely had a few decent ideas (and then killed him) so honestly, Wakanda needs some genuine assholes to tussle with.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#129007: Jun 8th 2021 at 2:28:27 PM

What they need to do is make him distinctive so it's harder for the comparisons with Aquaman to stick

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129008: Jun 8th 2021 at 2:29:15 PM

Basically just make him Orm.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#129009: Jun 8th 2021 at 2:33:22 PM

Except he keeps doubling down on the war against the surface thing.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#129010: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:00:19 PM

Hah. I can't believe we've reached the point where Namor is considered a joke compared to Aquaman.

Like, this is truly a bizarro universe.

One Strip! One Strip!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#129011: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:01:57 PM

wild mass guessNamor is also played by Jason Momoa, in a complete opposite performance as his one in Aquamanwild mass guess

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129012: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:03:32 PM

Even Family Guy respects Aquaman more than Namor.

At least Aquaman can do cool fish stuff.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#129013: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:06:11 PM

I remember that.

I think that happened back when the Aquaman is lame Meme was still at its strongest.

I'm pretty sure Seth did that as a humours subversion. I doubt he ever expected for Arthur and Namor to swap places in the which one is the bigger joke scenario.

Even Deathbattle has shown Arthur is the better of the two.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#129014: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:10:46 PM

The advantage is that Aquman has consistent prominence.

Not only does he have his own ongoing and supporting cast but he's also got a permanent spot on the JL.

It ensures he always has something to do compared to Namor who tends to suffer from limbo.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 8th 2021 at 4:10:54 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#129015: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:10:52 PM

That meme is dead as off now.

Took multiple works for it to die but one of my favourite characters is now well liked again.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#129016: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:29:07 PM

Topic change: I remembered today that Jensen Ackles was offered the role of Hawkeye but turned it down, and because I don’t particularly enjoy Renner’s Clint I think I would have liked to see that.

So are there any What Could Have Been (courtesy: WhatCouldHaveBeen.Marvel Cinematic Universe) castings that you think could’ve done a really good job, or would have otherwise liked to see?

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#129018: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:47:26 PM

[up]I was gonna say!

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#129019: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:50:42 PM

[up][up] Apparently Blunt has stated the only reason she didn't take up the role was because she was contractually obligated to work on Gulliver's Travels (2010). That's got to be the biggest regret of her career.

Some of the proposed voice actors for Rocket sound interesting. Sharlto Copley and Danny DeVito seem like the ones who would best capture Cooper's performance. But I gotta be honest, it would be very surreal to see the universe where Rocket is voiced by Bob Belcher.

Also, Anthony Mackie was almost the Mandarin in Iron Man 3? What?!

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 8th 2021 at 7:51:47 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#129020: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:52:29 PM

Emily Blunt as Black Widow, Ken Watanabe as the Ancient One, and anyone else besides Benedict Cumberbatch for Dr. Strange.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jun 8th 2021 at 7:52:45 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#129021: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:54:55 PM

Fourthing (or however) Blunt's Black Widow, although I imagine we might have lost some of the Steve & Natasha relationship (since that arose in part because their actors are good friends IRL)

Apparently Blunt has stated the only reason she didn't take up the role was because she was contractually obligated to work on Gulliver's Travels (2010). That's got to be the biggest regret of her career.

She's also spoken about superhero fatigue, so maybe not, or not anymore.

anyone else besides Benedict Cumberbatch for Dr. Strange.

LOL Same. He's not terrible or anything but I would have wanted a performance more unique than "Magic Sherlock"

Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 8th 2021 at 7:23:27 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#129022: Jun 8th 2021 at 4:57:56 PM

I understand why Joaquin Phoenix didn't take the role, but damn what great casting that could've been.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#129023: Jun 8th 2021 at 5:21:37 PM

[up][up] B-b-but Magic Sherlock is why Cumberbatch works in the first place! >:U

It'd work better if he actually kept his accent though. Dunno who the hell told him to go Generic American, it's at least "better" now (YMMV) but still.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#129024: Jun 8th 2021 at 10:28:40 PM

Cumberbatch was the best matched casting since RDJ. Fight me.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jun 8th 2021 at 1:29:32 PM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#129025: Jun 8th 2021 at 10:29:16 PM

[up]Marquis of Canterbury rules?

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