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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#128951: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:38:13 PM

[up][up]Apologies and while I get your point, I think Deadpool is too much of a "wacky asshole" whereas Namor is just...an asshole, no wackiness packaged.

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Edited by fredhot16 on Jun 7th 2021 at 10:38:43 AM

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#128952: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:43:23 PM

Namor has had a few humorous moments in the comics, such as that one time the National Guard confronted him when he visited NYC. He had to clarify that he was not invading the surface, he just wanted to buy some bagels (can't exactly make baked goods underwater after all).

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#128953: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:44:40 PM

Most of the time though, Namor is a self-righteous asshole.

Edited by Nightwire on Jun 7th 2021 at 10:45:11 AM

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#128954: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:48:53 PM

[up][up]That's the wackiness of a serious man doing the most mundane of tasks, like seeing Iron Man park his armor outside a restaurant and ordering a chili dog.

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#128955: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:51:40 PM

[up][up]There was also one time Namor sealed a treaty with a kingdom of crab people by having sex with their queen. Hope had accompanied him on this trip and was grossed out, with Namor chiding her for not being able to look past traditional beauty standards.

Hope then flirted with him, only for Namor to immediately reject her because she's under-age. He also made a joke about not like redheads (though note that one of his past love interests and late wife was a redhead).

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#128956: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:52:24 PM

Sometimes being an asshole is what make him so fun.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128957: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:53:08 PM

Eh, most of the time he's not the "fun" kind of asshole. He's the kind of asshole who makes you wonder why Marvel's superheroes put up with him in the first place.

Edited by M84 on Jun 8th 2021 at 1:56:42 AM

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#128958: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:55:42 PM

Honestly, now I want to see the Wacky Misadventures of the Asshole Straight Man, Namor.

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#128959: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:56:12 PM

He’s quite plainly an “asshole, asshole.”

There’s very little to no charm or snark, he’s just a prick.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128960: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:56:47 PM

The funny thing is that while Deadpool being a wacky asshole makes him more amusing for the audience than Namor is, it also makes him much less likeable in-universe. Sure, Namor's a jerk, but he's a jerk that Marvel's heroes can usually understand and reason with most of the time. Wade otoh is too unstable and thus too hard for them to predict and understand.

Edited by M84 on Jun 8th 2021 at 1:58:04 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#128961: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:58:12 PM

It’s also why Spider-Man is somewhat dislike by some heroes.

People don’t like dealing with talkative loons.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128962: Jun 7th 2021 at 10:59:45 PM

Nah, they dislike him because his Spidey sense lets him cheat at card games.

No, seriously.

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#128963: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:00:11 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]maybe is just me remembering that time when he tell Susan she have to kiss her or he will invade and she have to mean it, and she does....in front of Richard, them namor look at him with the biggest douchebag face ever and said "she mean it".

It was a moment of such douchebachery that I could do nothing but laught.

Edited by unknowing on Jun 7th 2021 at 2:00:41 PM

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#128964: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:01:05 PM

[up]That's from the Ultimate verse, which made Namor even worse than his 616 counterpart. It made everyone worse in general, including and especially Reed Richards.

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#128965: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:01:19 PM

Nah, I like the idea of Namor, this naked man except for his speedo, flying and swimming around and getting into ridiculous situations and treating everything with the same level of condescension and horniness.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128966: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:02:09 PM

And that’s why during the Death of Everything, being made Thanos’ bottom bitch was karma and being told to go fuck himself by Doom is just gravy.

[up][up] Oh I’m sure 616 Namor has done plenty of horrible stuff. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 7th 2021 at 11:02:46 AM

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#128967: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:02:38 PM

[up][up][up]really? For what I know Richard is already know for being a horrible human being and even worst husband, it take a lot to top that.

Edited by unknowing on Jun 7th 2021 at 2:02:52 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128968: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:04:38 PM

Ultimate Reed Richards became a bonafide genocidal supervillain and Mad Scientist who embodies everything 616 Reed Richards fears he could become.

[up][up]Ultimate Namor wasn't even the king of Atlantis. He was a criminal who was locked up in a prison before the Ultimate Fantastic Four unwittingly released him.

Edited by M84 on Jun 8th 2021 at 2:07:34 AM

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#128969: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:12:29 PM

Namor needs someone to bounce off of him.

Actually, have Namor and Deadpool ever met?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128970: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:14:36 PM

[up]Yes. During War of the Realms, Deadpool accidentally led a bunch of fire-breathing sharks from Muspelheim to Atlantis. Namor was not pleased. He outright called Wade a "jabbering moron", which isn't an unwarranted insult given the circumstances.

Edited by M84 on Jun 8th 2021 at 2:15:19 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128971: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:21:56 PM

Though TBF, Namor did flood Wakanda before so having his kingdom ruined isn’t undeserved.

Granted the Squadron Supreme already destroyed Atlantis before but eh nothing wrong with kicking an asshole when he’s down.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128972: Jun 7th 2021 at 11:25:16 PM

Yeah, but Deadpool didn't do that for Wakanda. He just did it because he was an idiot who didn't think things through.

Namor also wasn't impressed when Carol Danvers tried to convince him to join them in the war. He pointed out how asinine it was to try to leverage Deadpool bringing an invasion to his home into an alliance.

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#128973: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:10:40 AM

Nah, I like the idea of Namor, this naked man except for his speedo, flying and swimming around and getting into ridiculous situations and treating everything with the same level of condescension and horniness.

Don't forget the tiny little wings on his ankles. They flutter like a hummingbird while he looks down on you and delivers a VERY SERIOUS SPEECH about why you're lower than pondscum.

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#128974: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:15:14 AM

> Namor will never get a solo movie. Heck, he's never even had a solo comic run.

my monkey's paw just uncurled,what have you done!?

Edited by Ultimatum on Jun 8th 2021 at 1:15:30 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128975: Jun 8th 2021 at 6:21:42 AM

[up]Hey, you're the one who bought a creepy severed animal appendage.

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