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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128726: May 31st 2021 at 1:28:46 PM

When you're mad at Spider-Man, you gotta be green.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128727: May 31st 2021 at 1:28:56 PM

CBR makes crap up all the time. Don't sweat this until better news sites pick it up.

That's my stance too and it seems like a huge change.

Edited by Cortez on May 31st 2021 at 11:29:18 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#128728: May 31st 2021 at 1:36:34 PM

> When you're mad at Spider-Man, you gotta be green.

Green goblin shakes his fist at you

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jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#128729: May 31st 2021 at 1:38:19 PM

"HULK DOESN'T LIKE BUGMAN MAKING FUN OF HULK!! HULK SMASH!!!"

I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable person
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#128730: May 31st 2021 at 2:07:17 PM

We ever seen J. Jonah Jameson in a green suit?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#128731: May 31st 2021 at 2:11:08 PM

no but hes a green eyed monster

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128733: May 31st 2021 at 11:01:35 PM

Now that I think about it bringing in Peter actors could be a sign of a Clone Saga adaptation.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128735: May 31st 2021 at 11:51:31 PM

The Jackal was originally intended to be a joke. More than a serious threat, he was supposed to represent angry Gwen fans who still demanded her being brought back. The Jackal was Gerry Conway's Take That! to fans who obsess over Gwen, hence he is designed as ugly and sleazy as possible.

You wouldn't happen to be a source for that would you?

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#128736: Jun 1st 2021 at 12:39:56 AM

Can't find a excerpt, but it's from the book Marvel Comics: The Untold Story.

Here's a interview where Gerry Conway is more polite regarding the reasoning of the original clone saga. It was a direct response to fans asking for Gwen back and Stan Lee putting pressure on him to do so. In the book is revealed he received death threats for killing Gwen.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128737: Jun 1st 2021 at 12:41:29 AM

Well thats an early example of that.........

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#128738: Jun 1st 2021 at 12:53:51 AM

Fun fact: fandoms have always been shitty. I wouldn't be surprised if people had actually sent Arthur Conan Doyle death threats in the mail after he killed off Sherlock Holmes.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128739: Jun 1st 2021 at 12:56:10 AM

The Internet sped up and escalated what was already there. Before not only some might've have the persistence to send hate mail at a creator the slow way, now it's as easy as opening their social media page and flooding the comments.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 1st 2021 at 12:56:28 PM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#128740: Jun 1st 2021 at 1:07:02 AM

A notable example off the top of my head, End of Evangelion has a couple real life photos mixed into the film towards the end. They show piles of letters in an office and graffiti on the walls outside of the studio, all telling the animators to kill themselves.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jun 1st 2021 at 4:07:49 AM

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#128741: Jun 1st 2021 at 1:27:03 AM

[up]Yeah. That series was quite the mindfuck

The Final Name
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#128742: Jun 1st 2021 at 2:33:30 AM

Jesus christ

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128743: Jun 1st 2021 at 2:34:56 AM

Poor Anno was suffering from major depression then too.

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AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Otaku
#128744: Jun 1st 2021 at 2:45:13 AM

I think that's enough about Spider-Man for today. So, what obscure superhero that you think Marvel is going to adapt?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#128745: Jun 1st 2021 at 2:47:33 AM

I can't think of any off the top of my head right now that count as "obscure"

Characters that are relatively unknown are harder speculate on

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128746: Jun 1st 2021 at 2:53:12 AM

Well we got the X-Men now so a whole lotta wealth there.

Its funny thinking about it especially with how Batman The Brave and The Bold excellently portrayed a massive roster of DC characters, but the whole Fox-ban really did gimp the company because it prevented them from using a truly massive roster of characters.

You actually can make a Wolverine: The Brave and The Bold version where Logan teams up with various Mutants and other characters related to the X-franchise.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128747: Jun 1st 2021 at 3:55:05 AM

So, what obscure superhero that you think Marvel is going to adapt?

American Eagle.

Assuming that Echo spinoff series happens, I could see him in there as a supporting character.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#128748: Jun 1st 2021 at 6:43:41 AM

Possibly, although I don't know if the idea that these two would just cross paths/know each other just because they are both Native American is all that sound.

I genuinely don't know enough about the two characters to know of they are from the same general geographic background let alone their tribal background.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128749: Jun 1st 2021 at 6:48:27 AM

Jason Strongbow is a member of the Navajo Nation, while Maya Lopez is of Cheyenne descent.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128750: Jun 1st 2021 at 10:42:17 AM

American Eagle did get briefly referenced in the leaked script from Ms. Marvel, though it might’ve been a placeholder name to cover up a mention of Sam Wilson as the new Captain America.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 1st 2021 at 10:42:44 AM


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