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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#128701: May 30th 2021 at 6:08:13 AM

Honestly, I really don't want them to bring back Robert Downey Jr for an Iron Man 4, but if it had to happen, having that Tony Stark be a clone would be one of the best ways they could handle it. Have his death in-universe be cheapened as a way to avoid having his death out-of-universe be cheapened, like how the Star Wars sequel trilogy avoided people criticizing Kylo Ren as being a Darth Vader wanna-be by literally just making that be what he is.

But still, I'd rather not bring him back at all.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 30th 2021 at 6:08:36 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128703: May 30th 2021 at 7:33:51 AM

What has he been doing after the MCU anyway? Last I heard he did that Dolittle movie which...wasn't great.

Disgusted, but not surprised
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#128704: May 30th 2021 at 7:38:13 AM

Hes apparently going into executive producing. Hes doing the Sweet Tooth adaptation and the new perry mason show.

Edited by miraculous on May 30th 2021 at 7:38:44 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#128705: May 30th 2021 at 7:42:29 AM

[up]The Perry Mason remake went over a lot better than Doolittle at least. It has a second season in the pipeline.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#128706: May 31st 2021 at 4:24:57 AM

Plans are reportedly changing for Captain America 4

(spoilers for Falcon and Winter Soldier in case anyone's not seen it yet)

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128707: May 31st 2021 at 4:30:38 AM

What in the holy Asgardian Hel?!

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128708: May 31st 2021 at 8:04:46 AM

Before anyone else says anything: the source seems to be hearsay. Until we get any real confirmation, don’t treat this as official.

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#128709: May 31st 2021 at 8:10:26 AM

CBR makes crap up all the time. Don't sweat this until better news sites pick it up.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#128710: May 31st 2021 at 8:12:53 AM

Too lazy to read the article, is it the rumor saying Sharon was going to be the villain but is being replaced by Sin? Because yeah, that's probably fake. No way they're far enough in to writing the script for any trades to know details like this yet.

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#128711: May 31st 2021 at 8:59:30 AM

My favorite part of that dream is that it didn't even steal the right villain. I can deal with Iron Man stealing a Spider-Man villain. At this point, it seems like the next logical step from Vulture and Mysterio.

But the Lizard clones Tony back to life? The Jackal was right there! [lol]

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#128712: May 31st 2021 at 9:01:39 AM

The Jackal Lizard: one of the most dangerous species of Australia.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
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#128713: May 31st 2021 at 9:04:20 AM

The poor, poor Jackal. All he does is clone people. Other villains get to have awesome powers, monster forms, or super-weapons. He's just in his lab, cooking up Gwen Stacy #347 and Spider-Man But Diabetic.

Don't take that away from him. It's all he has.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 31st 2021 at 9:05:07 AM

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Disasturbator
#128714: May 31st 2021 at 9:08:12 AM

he's a villainous copy photocopier

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#128715: May 31st 2021 at 9:09:00 AM

The Jackal is a character that must be portrayed as an older man. If he appears in a movie, it's important to present him as a Gen X or Boomer.

This is because if he was a Millennial, he would just play The Sims and be content with that.

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#128716: May 31st 2021 at 9:11:28 AM

[up][up][up]The last Spider-Man cartoon made Jackal into a goblin looking creature, so guess he has that.

Edited by Cross on May 31st 2021 at 12:12:02 PM

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#128717: May 31st 2021 at 9:14:44 AM

Oh, he was that in comics, too.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#128718: May 31st 2021 at 9:17:20 AM

My favorite part of that dream is that it didn't even steal the right villain. I can deal with Iron Man stealing a Spider-Man villain. At this point, it seems like the next logical step from Vulture and Mysterio.

But the Lizard clones Tony back to life? The Jackal was right there!

I know, right?! I thought that was weird, too, right after waking up. I think it's because of all the rumors of previous movie villains coming back in No Way Home, and the fact I really liked Amazing Spider-Man's Lizard.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#128719: May 31st 2021 at 9:20:29 AM

Jackal is always a creepy gross man who dresses up like naked furry Green Goblin. For some reason.

Edited by Nightwire on May 31st 2021 at 9:22:42 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#128720: May 31st 2021 at 9:38:21 AM

I do wonder how the writers got the idea that Jackals = cloning. Or better yet, what a jackal even looks like. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to look like a dog-man, not a creepy green version of Beast.

Edited by lbssb on May 31st 2021 at 9:38:38 AM

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#128721: May 31st 2021 at 9:42:35 AM

[up][up]In the comics it a costume or a transformation, because the cartoon had it as the latter.

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Funny but not helpful
#128722: May 31st 2021 at 10:02:56 AM

It’s more about the jackal’s symbolic association with the dead

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#128723: May 31st 2021 at 10:04:55 AM

[up][up][up] The Jackal was originally intended to be a joke. More than a serious threat, he was supposed to represent angry Gwen fans who still demanded her being brought back. The Jackal was Gerry Conway's Take That! to fans who obsess over Gwen, hence he is designed as ugly and sleazy as possible.

Later writers didn't got the joke and build him as a serious threat.

Edited by Akirakan on May 31st 2021 at 12:05:07 PM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#128724: May 31st 2021 at 1:14:04 PM

Oh, I just got why he's called the Jackal. Because he's digging up an old corpse! I get it!

... Still doesn't explain why he looks like a fuzzy green goblin though.

Edited by chasemaddigan on May 31st 2021 at 4:14:37 AM

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#128725: May 31st 2021 at 1:25:37 PM

...Perhaps he read Spider-Man: Sins Past?

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