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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128526: May 24th 2021 at 9:22:54 PM

Sersi has been part of the Avengers. She was probably the most known Eternal before now.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128527: May 24th 2021 at 9:24:01 PM

What would be the point? They don't have secret identities.

Also, I'm fairly certain most, if not all of the Eternals don't wear masks.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128528: May 24th 2021 at 9:29:32 PM

Late to the party, but the comics have an answer for why the Eternals aren't more involved with problems on Earth.

In the past they did interact with the rest of humanity and aided them, and even came to be worshipped as gods.

Except in the Marvel comics verse there are actual gods, and they were not happy about the Eternals pretending to be gods. Especially since the Eternals were appropriating their identities.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128529: May 24th 2021 at 9:48:52 PM

itsalwayssunnyconspiracyboard.jpg “...and this is how we get Hercules!”

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128530: May 24th 2021 at 9:49:39 PM

Didn't Eternals Sersi somehow cause the legend of Greek myth Circe turning men into pigs?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128531: May 24th 2021 at 9:53:45 PM

The recent comics run's answer for who the Eternals are and what they've been doing is a literal shrug. tongue

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#128532: May 24th 2021 at 9:55:20 PM

I recall Thena got in a fight with the actual Goddess Athena during The Incredible Hercules over that very point (the Eternals being mistaken for gods).

Along with them mistaking Herc for one of them somehow.

One Strip! One Strip!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128533: May 24th 2021 at 11:03:25 PM

On the other hand Hercules is friends with the Eternal who mortals thought was Hercules.

[up]×3

Yeah, Sersi is Circe from the Odyssey.

Edited by Cortez on May 24th 2021 at 2:04:06 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128534: May 25th 2021 at 2:08:40 AM

I am very interested as to what the actual conflict is here.

Cause yeah the teaser trailer introduced us but it didn't explain too much. We know the Eternals are a group of deity like beings who have hidden and lived on Earth since time immemorial.

But what's the problem? What exactly is gonna happen that is gonna disrupt the idyllic lifestyle these people have maintained for thousands of years? Cause presumably the dinner scene at the end of the trailer takes place at the beginning of the film, then that showcases what life is like for them, they live pretty fun and appear close. What event or action is gonna irreparably destroy the life these people have made?

What lucky guy or gal is gonna be the villain and be our harbinger of change? tongue

Edited by slimcoder on May 25th 2021 at 2:09:05 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128535: May 25th 2021 at 2:16:35 AM

I don't think we'll get more info until a longer trailer.

Edited by Cortez on May 25th 2021 at 5:39:27 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128536: May 25th 2021 at 2:18:24 AM

I know that, I'm just saying its tantalizing to wait until they give out more plot details so we develop a clearer picture of the whole thing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rorian Dark Lord of Falun Copper Mine Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
Dark Lord of Falun Copper Mine
#128537: May 25th 2021 at 2:41:04 AM

It appears that atleast according the wiki that the character of Druig, played by Barry Keoghan, will the villian/antagonist. Not sure how accurate it is.

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Druig

Edited by Rorian on May 25th 2021 at 11:42:14 AM

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#128538: May 25th 2021 at 6:09:37 AM

Yeah, if there's a Eternal who wants power for themselves, it's Druig. He was the main antagonist during Gaiman's run.

Then there's Sprite. Although not a straight up villain during Gaiman's take, he does orchestrate a series of events that affect the rest of the Eternals and benefited Druig in order to make himself mortal.

Edited by Akirakan on May 25th 2021 at 8:09:58 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128539: May 25th 2021 at 3:21:44 PM

Okay I'd kill for a Magneto: Nazi Hunter movie.

That be dope.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#128540: May 25th 2021 at 3:56:04 PM

[up] I love that scene. It is one of the best in that film series.

Edited by Bullman on May 25th 2021 at 5:56:38 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#128541: May 25th 2021 at 4:09:42 PM

Originally, Fox did want to do an X-Men Origins: Magneto movie, but after Wolverine shat the bed, they had to restructure the film into First Class.

Which I'm not knocking at all. First Class is honestly one of the best of the X-Men films. I just wouldn't be surprised if that scene was lifted straight from the Magneto script and placed into First Class almost word-for-word.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#128542: May 25th 2021 at 4:44:57 PM

On the other hand Hercules is friends with the Eternal who mortals thought was Hercules.

And then those two went to become friends of Disney's Hercules, and that's going to be the big Multiverse movie of Marvel.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#128543: May 25th 2021 at 5:10:12 PM

I mean, we had not one but two excellent X-Men Origins: Magneto scenes. The other one's the very first scene in the franchise.

The legend has returned.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128544: May 25th 2021 at 5:42:38 PM

I’m halfway expecting Marvel’s Hercules - if and when he appears - to have some kind of nod to Disney’s Hercules. Like a Thor-esque bit where he’s drinking and telling a vainglorious story of his exploits, and he goes “that reminds me of the time I thrashed a cyclops with no powers at all! Ho ho!”

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#128545: May 25th 2021 at 6:07:02 PM

Do we know when Eternals is set? Because I could easily see Thanos and the Snap being what causes them to sit up and start taking action again. Maybe they'll start in the background, and they still won't interfere in minor things like the events of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but they're going to be involved in world-threatening events instead of just leaving it to the mortals.

This would work whether or not they were personally affected by the Snap. In fact, it might make them look better if they were immune to the effect, but still realized they needed to be involved.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128546: May 25th 2021 at 6:10:17 PM

Well, the trailer has them talking during a meal about Steve Rogers and Iron Man being gone, so it seems to be post-Blip.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#128547: May 25th 2021 at 6:21:07 PM

Which could be within a week. It's clearly not like, five years later.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#128548: May 25th 2021 at 6:25:16 PM

I’m halfway expecting Marvel’s Hercules - if and when he appears - to have some kind of nod to Disney’s Hercules. Like a Thor-esque bit where he’s drinking and telling a vainglorious story of his exploits, and he goes “that reminds me of the time I thrashed a cyclops with no powers at all! Ho ho!”

This is why, despite the hatred of the Disney monopoly,I want them to buy the rights to the other two Hercules so that they can just do a Hercules reference Bonanza.

Hercules, A hero of song and story.

Possessing a strength only matched by the power of his heart.

So hot, he made steam look cool.

This shit writes itself.

One Strip! One Strip!
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128549: May 25th 2021 at 6:27:14 PM

He DOES show up in the Rick Riordan-verse, and they’re developing a show about that wild mass guess

GeneralGigan Godzilla from A New Empire Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Godzilla
#128550: May 25th 2021 at 6:32:09 PM

wild mass guessEternals will Retcon the Asgardians into Eternals, because the Eternals were the One Myth to Explain Them All when they were out of continuity, Zeus is also an Eternal.wild mass guess

SKREEEEEEEONK!

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