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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#128501: May 24th 2021 at 12:10:26 PM

A recurring problem I have with superhero films is that were always led to believe no superheroing of note happens between installments.

The Sam Remmi Spiderman trilogy is the worst for this. The fourth film would have resolved this as it was intended to open with a montage of different Spidey villains being taken down.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#128502: May 24th 2021 at 12:26:29 PM

This was a few pages back, but I find it funny that Tobias Drake simultaneously criticized the Eternals for not taking an active hand in human affairs (such as stopping the Holocaust) while also criticizing them for being colonialists. Like, either one on its own might be a valid criticism, but it's hard to see how they could be both.

The simplest reason for the Eternals not getting involved with any alien invasions or stuff like that is they simply didn't know about them until after the fact. They were off living wherever it is they live, doing whatever it is they do. Then, in the evenings, they go, "I guess I'll check what happened in the news today ... huh, an Asgardian fought some Chitauri in New York. Glad that turned out all right."

I'd guess half of them getting Snapped then Blipped back to life five years later is what makes them go, "Shit, maybe we should try getting ahead of this stuff."

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#128503: May 24th 2021 at 12:55:36 PM

Surely you can protect humanity from natural disasters and external threats without acting as a colonizer?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128504: May 24th 2021 at 12:58:25 PM

Yeah, it's the difference between Superman and That Guy From Invincible.

That said, I just got the impression they parked their spaceship somewhere remote and have just been largely chilling, not actively colonizing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128505: May 24th 2021 at 12:59:09 PM

Man it’s weird how obscure this property is compared to New Gods.

I could at least recognize Orion and Mister Miracle. Here I’m not sure who anyone is.

Also awwwww couldn’t someone get a cool mask or something? Well at least the lead woman has some kind of crest crown.

Edited by slimcoder on May 24th 2021 at 1:00:07 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#128506: May 24th 2021 at 1:05:09 PM

The visuals and costumes of the trailer didn't really appeal to me. But I'm curious about the setting.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#128507: May 24th 2021 at 1:06:56 PM

[up][up]True, but the same thing could have been said of half of the MCU.

Got G is the big example, but very few non comics readers knew who Captain Marvel was, or Scarlet Witch and Vision.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128508: May 24th 2021 at 1:09:23 PM

[up] But the Eternals take it up to 11, these guys are obscure even among the obscure.

Like sure the Guardians weren’t high-tier but they did have a good run in the late 2000s during the Dn A era of Cosmic Marvel.

The Eternals rarely have gotten any sort of comics AT ALL.

Edited by slimcoder on May 24th 2021 at 1:13:19 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128509: May 24th 2021 at 1:10:39 PM

To be fair, I think the Eternals are obscure even for comic book fans.

[nja]

Edited by Synchronicity on May 24th 2021 at 3:10:48 AM

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#128510: May 24th 2021 at 1:19:42 PM

I expect if an Eternals movie is a success that might make them feature in the comic books a bit more heavily

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#128511: May 24th 2021 at 1:20:22 PM

If the name behind The Eternals wasn't Jack Kirby, they probably wouldn't have gotten a movie.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128512: May 24th 2021 at 1:22:20 PM

[up]I know there was even some speculation that this was going to Dueling Works the New Gods movie (RIP :( ), as they were announced within a month of each other.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128513: May 24th 2021 at 1:25:10 PM

Looking at both properties, I think the designs for New Gods is stronger.

The Eternals are bit bland compared to the more distinctive color schemes of at least Orion, Mister Miracle, and Darkseid.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128514: May 24th 2021 at 1:33:47 PM

The biggest strength of the MCU is that it Colbert Bumps everything it touches, turning even the more obscure corners of the Marvel Universe into household names. Eternals is simply one of the furthest extremes of such.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#128515: May 24th 2021 at 1:39:27 PM

I like Richard Madden a lot as an actor, but while I'm only passingly familiar with the Eternals, Ikaris is enough of their leader that I wish he swapped actors with someone else to avert White Male Lead.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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The Wanderer
#128517: May 24th 2021 at 2:02:32 PM

It seems that they based the Ishtar Gate in the trailer on the real one in the Pergamon from what I can tell.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#128518: May 24th 2021 at 3:33:32 PM

Ajak is the leader (who I fully expect to die) while Sersi is the movie's lead, so to speak.

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#128519: May 24th 2021 at 8:37:05 PM

Since Elliot Page is trending on Twitter right now, any thoughts on who he could play? Since he did a pretty good job as Kitty Pryde back when he identified as female, it'd be cool to bring him back and recast him as a different character, maybe another X-Men? I could see him play Iceman well.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128520: May 24th 2021 at 8:48:27 PM

Also awwwww couldn’t someone get a cool mask or something?

What would be the point? They don't have secret identities.

Edited by Cortez on May 24th 2021 at 12:21:23 PM

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#128521: May 24th 2021 at 8:50:57 PM

So, for those who have read their Eternals: are there any particular storylines of theirs that are likely to be adapted? I know that Neil Gaiman wrote a series right after Civil War but I don't really know anything else.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128522: May 24th 2021 at 8:51:00 PM

Logically the way a character becomes unobscure is to have them appear in things.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128523: May 24th 2021 at 8:56:12 PM

[up][up][up] Cause of style.

Black Bolt doesn't have a secret identity yet he just looks wrong without the cowl.

[up] Which the Eternals have barely been in sadly for them.

Edited by slimcoder on May 24th 2021 at 8:56:43 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128524: May 24th 2021 at 9:00:19 PM

Until now you mean.

Cause of style.

But it's not the style for some of them.

Edited by Cortez on May 24th 2021 at 2:07:16 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128525: May 24th 2021 at 9:16:32 PM

[up][up] Has to start somewhere

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