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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#128351: May 18th 2021 at 11:22:48 AM

And we'll have to see how Kamala's show incorporates the Inhumans into her origin, if they don't just change it to something else. Honestly, I don't think that many people would be too upset if they did.

Edited by lbssb on May 18th 2021 at 11:24:18 AM

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#128352: May 18th 2021 at 11:52:16 AM

wild mass guessKamala is the last surviving Inhuman because Thanos actually killed them all off

Except Lockjaw,he's alive

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#128353: May 18th 2021 at 12:04:29 PM

Poor Lunella

She never even made it to her show

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#128354: May 18th 2021 at 12:31:13 PM

Honestly, I think they won't include any mentions of the Inhumans in Ms. Marvel. Maybe they won't make Kamala a mutant, but I think her origin could be tweaked enough so it's not a part of the Inhuman lore. I gathered that the Inhumans really don't play a huge role in her series, and after their series crashed and burned, I doubt Marvel Studios would want to deal with them for a long time. Plus, they'd have to explain the basics of what the Inhumans actually are for those who haven't watched the previous shows or read the comics. It's probably a lot more pragmatic to change the origin slightly than deal with all that.

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#128355: May 18th 2021 at 12:33:32 PM

I don't think anyone at Marvel Studios considers Netflix, ABC, Hulu, etc. material to be canon. But they do know that those shows have fans.

The impression I get is that there's a little bit of reluctance to actually pull that trigger and fire the first official non-canon bullet. To actually depict a new Luke Cage or have a new Kingpin show up as a villain or do a new Runaways series or something that would say, in no uncertain terms, that the other shows are not canon. It has to happen eventually, but it's going to suck when it finally does 'cause a lot of fans are going to be outraged. No way around that.

Right now, they're floating around plausible deniability. You don't know that it isn't canon. You can't prove that it isn't.

But once that first shot's fired, it's free game. Suddenly all of the material from those shows will be ripe for the plucking.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 18th 2021 at 12:35:41 PM

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#128356: May 18th 2021 at 12:40:33 PM

I wonder what theyll go with first....

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#128357: May 18th 2021 at 12:41:16 PM

A certain family of royals who I refuse to acknowledge exist.

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#128358: May 18th 2021 at 12:48:02 PM

Something big that'll bring in excitement and/or goodwill to counter the sad fanbase maybe. Like IDK a child identified as "Molly Hayes" tests positive for what an offscreen scientist calls the "X-Gene".note 

Runaways fans: Are we a joke to you?

Everyone else: OMG OMG MUTANTZ?????

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#128360: May 18th 2021 at 1:07:20 PM

Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get a new take on Daredevil or Luke Cage any time soon, but they're not gonna expect you to see external media to understand a story. Most of the TV series will go untouched outside of a few minute details.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#128362: May 18th 2021 at 1:30:09 PM

Hell, at this point they could probably retcon it so Magneto is Wanda's grandfather.

Or maybe even great-grandfather, given how long it'll take for mutants to appear in the MCU.

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#128364: May 18th 2021 at 2:19:42 PM

“I’m Wanda.”

“Wanda who?”

“Wanda Skywalker.” tongue

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#128365: May 18th 2021 at 2:20:06 PM

It depends. On Wanda's mothers side of the family it turns out she is apart of a long line of witches and Scarlet Witch is a legacy name.

So both parentage provides a lineage for her.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#128366: May 18th 2021 at 2:21:58 PM

Maybe in the comics, but on the mcu Wanda seems to be an example of Randomly Gifted.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128367: May 18th 2021 at 2:23:48 PM

Though really only Black Panther and Hope Pym is apart of some special legacy. Everyone else started on their own for the most part.

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#128368: May 18th 2021 at 2:23:54 PM

[up][up]Given how much weight Agatha puts on the name Scarlet Witch, I'd say she's closer to Chosen One.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 18th 2021 at 2:24:13 AM

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#128369: May 18th 2021 at 2:28:38 PM

Tony and Thor had arcs about how to deal with their fathers' legacies and sins (or mistakes, whatever works).

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#128370: May 19th 2021 at 1:14:05 AM

You guys think we should create a Loki forum already?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#128371: May 19th 2021 at 4:40:50 AM

For the tv show,sure!

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#128372: May 19th 2021 at 8:31:58 AM

Speaking of Loki, who wants a new teaser?

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#128373: May 19th 2021 at 8:56:12 AM

Loki thread made.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128374: May 19th 2021 at 8:58:47 AM

Current word on the grapevine is that Miss Minutes is being voiced by Tara Strong. I'm awful with this sort of thing especially since Minutes is clearly going all Southern but just as an fyi, have no clue if it's actually true but it's neat if it is.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128375: May 19th 2021 at 10:42:53 AM

It definitely sounds like Tara Strong. Specifically, Miss Minutes sounds pretty close to Tara's Harley Quinn, but with a country accent instead of a Brooklyn one.


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