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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#128276: May 13th 2021 at 10:59:53 PM

Robert Downey Jr has been on lifts and boxes for 10 movies.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#128277: May 13th 2021 at 11:01:55 PM

[up][up]That's mainly because there's less gamma power in Jen than there is in Bruce. She retains her intelligence and can transform at will because she only got a blood transfusion from Bruce instead of a full-on gamma bomb to the face.

Edited by lbssb on May 13th 2021 at 11:02:25 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#128278: May 13th 2021 at 11:04:06 PM

And in the comics she can take on a form more similar to her cousin's Savage Hulk form when she gets really mad.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128279: May 13th 2021 at 11:04:40 PM

Apparently, mostly about the Knicks

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#128280: May 13th 2021 at 11:07:32 PM

We know who's playing She-Hulk, by the way, it's Tatiana Maslany. Who is 5'4", so it's very likely that the She-Hulk form is going to be 100% Motion-Captured CGI.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 13th 2021 at 11:08:04 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128281: May 14th 2021 at 1:10:53 AM

Speaking of MCU Captain Britain, they could also do Excalibur with the X-Men license which iirc would have a female lead.

And let’s not forget that essential Squirrel Girl film!

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#128282: May 14th 2021 at 1:36:17 AM

[up] Hypothetically, if we can get Milana Vayntrub a part this Squirrel Girl project, it would be a neat callback to her brief opportunity starring in the scrapped New Warriors pilot set in the MCU.

[up]x2: Yeah, I trust the kind of budget the Marvel Studios series got to pull it off. Unlike the various Arrowverse series that pulled off similar characters with mixed results, the short season should help.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on May 14th 2021 at 12:43:51 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128283: May 14th 2021 at 1:50:12 AM

Man I feel bad for the Arrowverse.

Now they have to contend with actual quality superhero programing with great special effects.

All while having to deal with the CW's CW-ness.

Edited by slimcoder on May 14th 2021 at 1:50:40 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#128284: May 14th 2021 at 2:17:50 AM

Don't really think that's an issue, there has been quality Superhero TV stuff before, see the Netflix Marvel Verse or Doom Patrol and co

The focus on the CW shows is different, they make new and longer Seasons every year instead of shorter seasons all 2 years.

It's like saying Fast Food will go out of business due to more Gourmet Restaurants opening.

(Note: I love the Arrowverse, though this year has certainly not been kind to it)

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#128285: May 14th 2021 at 4:08:28 AM

Yeah, just look at the sheer quantity of the Arrowverse versus the Disney+ Marvel shows. There's so much more.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128286: May 14th 2021 at 5:28:12 AM

People still thinking they're gonna have to cheap out on She-Hulk is legit hilarious when the Wandavision BTS revealed that they CGI'd Vision's synthezoid head in every episode just so they didn't have to deal with the prosthetics. And FAWS had to CGI some of Captain Falcon's headpiece to make skintight fabric.

They're throwing Hollywood budgets on these shows and Endgame had Bruce spend 95% of the film Hulk'd out. They'll make She-Hulk work.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#128287: May 14th 2021 at 7:55:26 AM

Yeah, budget is the last thing I'm worrying about for these shows.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#128288: May 14th 2021 at 4:15:04 PM

Looks like Mads Mikkelsen might be coming back as Kaecilius in Multiverse of Madness.

Unless it's a flashback, Mads Mikkelsen as directed by Sam Raimi is going to be a treat and a half (even if I wanted him to be Doctor Doom).

UPDATE: Looks like they got rid of the part regarding Multiverse of Madness. Luckily, Synchronicity has us covered with a cached version of the article.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 15th 2021 at 5:44:14 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#128289: May 14th 2021 at 4:29:37 PM

In the previous film Dormammu was played by benedict cumberbatch in a indirect form, implying to me he just took Strange's form. I always wanted that Dormammu took Kaecillius's form after he absorbed him so Mads Mikkelsen plays Dormammu. Hope they go with that.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128290: May 14th 2021 at 4:32:54 PM

Good way to reuse a wasted actor.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128291: May 14th 2021 at 4:43:58 PM

Wait, where does it say it? I'm combing through the article and I don't see where MoM gets mentioned.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128292: May 14th 2021 at 5:37:59 PM

I read this earlier today, then read it again when I got home, and went cross-eyed when I saw [up]. Checked the cached version and seems like they took this line out:

He started rehearsing James Mangold’s “Indiana Jones 5” with Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, to be followed by a role as Kaecilius in Marvel’s “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.”

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#128293: May 14th 2021 at 7:47:49 PM

Some discussion in the Comics thread reminded me of something I had seen (I think on the Marvel Studios Spoilers Reddit) and I wanted to discuss. I have no idea if it's accurate (I'd take the second part with a grain of salt), but it would make a lot of sense.

So, apparently (it's on Wikipedia for whatever that's worth), Gugu Gugu Mbatha-Raw's character in the Loki show is Ravonna, Kang the Conqueror's lover/enemy, and there's a rumor that Kang himself is going to appear. The support for that that is that apparently, on IMDB a name is listed on the Loki crew as the costumer for "Mr. Majors", and the person listed was also the costumer for Jonathan Majors (Kang's actor) in Lovecraft Country.

But in any event, I could very easily see Kang appearing as "Victor Timely" in the Loki show. I kind of imagine him as seeming pretty non-descript, and possibly even being genuinely not evil at that point in the timestream.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128294: May 14th 2021 at 7:50:56 PM

Gugu being Ravonna was reported a month or so ago, yeah, during the round of character descriptions put out after the trailer dropped which revealed what everyone's names were. Specifically, she's going by the name Renslayer.

As far as I'm aware, any information about Kang himself appearing is a rumor, albeit one that makes sense.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 14th 2021 at 7:53:21 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#128295: May 14th 2021 at 7:53:57 PM

Cool. I didn't know that was confirmed. I guess it's okay then to discuss it without the spoilers. Suffice to say, even though the MCU divorced Hank Pym from Ultron, I would assume that you can't do a plot about an organization making sure no one screws with the timestream without having Kang show up in some manner.

Also, I want to bring up again how it clicked for me when it was announced that Kang was appearing in an Ant-Man movie that the quantum realm/time travel suits have a suspicious resemblance to Kang's costume. Which suggests the nicely ironic reveal that the circumstances that allowed for Thanos to be defeated allowed for the creation of another galactic Evil Overlord.

Edited by Hodor2 on May 14th 2021 at 9:57:11 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128296: May 14th 2021 at 7:57:46 PM

My guess at the time was that her comics origin will play out during the show, since in the comics she and Kang met when he invaded her time period and tried to force her to marry him, with her falling in love with being the twist at the end of that story.

So my theory - just a theory, though - is that Ravonna will be introduced as a temporal refugee from an invasion of her time period, not much info. Then Kang's empire will become a threat partway through the season, and be revealed to have been the force that invaded her time. And then at the end, when they try to stop Kang or something she decides to join him instead. Cue set-up for Antman 3 where she'll appear as Kang's queen, or whatever other big thing they're planning for Kang afterwards.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 14th 2021 at 7:58:40 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
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#128297: May 15th 2021 at 2:24:14 AM

Dormmamu was wasted their.

He's one of the most bombastic and scenery chewing villains in the whole Marvel universe and they reduced him to a GDV with his iconic form taken out. A waste.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#128298: May 15th 2021 at 4:06:46 AM

What's a GDV?

also disagree that Dormmamu was wasted,but whatever

Edited by Ultimatum on May 15th 2021 at 11:15:10 AM

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Goku Black
#128299: May 15th 2021 at 4:07:24 AM

Generic Doomsday Villain

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128300: May 15th 2021 at 7:07:00 AM

Does Strange have any other villains that could be considered interesting?


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