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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#128201: May 13th 2021 at 2:42:35 PM

True, the problem is Magneto is the biggest Draco in Leather Pants of the entire Marvel universe, and the better Magneto gets the more Xavier gets dragged into Ron the Death Eater in response.

Does he? I have never seen this. Usually, most fans who Draco in Leather Pants Magneto are shippers in my experience. Who love Xavier as much as Magneto. Then again I have never been that deep in the comics fandom and was more in the cartoons and movies ones. So I could be wrong.

Edited by Bullman on May 13th 2021 at 4:44:17 AM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#128202: May 13th 2021 at 3:02:25 PM

I'm gonna point at Beast too for getting screwed over by recent comics a lot. tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128203: May 13th 2021 at 3:03:48 PM

He should smoke some weed and then get cast in an Avengers movie

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128204: May 13th 2021 at 3:09:22 PM

[up][up][up] I don't know if by DILP they meant the people who are broadly sympathetic towards Magneto's views. Like how there is a genuine Karli Morgenthau fandom that points out she is right but the writing casts her as a violent terrorist so the resulting work is rather centrist.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 13th 2021 at 5:09:29 AM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#128205: May 13th 2021 at 3:17:56 PM

So, if one was to watch the MCU films in chronological order (As in, the order the events in the MCU happened in, as opposed to which ones came out first), should they start with Captain America: The First Avenger or Captain Marvel? After all, First Avenger does end in 2011, while all of Captain Marvel (ignoring the mid-credits scene) takes place in 1995.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#128206: May 13th 2021 at 3:22:41 PM

First Avenger's last scene is basically a Stinger anyway, so watch that first.

I think the real question is going to be when you should watch Eternals.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#128207: May 13th 2021 at 3:23:58 PM

I believe my brother was just doing that. He started with First Avenger. No matter where it ends, it starts during WWII, so it goes first.

Besides Captain Marvel technically ends 2019 if you count the stinger.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#128208: May 13th 2021 at 3:28:46 PM

And Endgame kinda screws with this, since it's a time travel plot, and I imagine Kang's not gonna make things any easier whenever he shows up with his time shit.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128209: May 13th 2021 at 3:36:42 PM

I don't know if by DILP they meant the people who are broadly sympathetic towards Magneto's views. Like how there is a genuine Karli Morgenthau fandom that points out she is right but the writing casts her as a violent terrorist so the resulting work is rather centrist.

Basically this.

Like, if you're the kind of leftist who believes Killmonger and Karli were 100% justified then not only do you most likely think the same for Magneto but there's no way you can stomach Xavier's mission of achieving acceptance through promoted heroism and protecting the system from violence until it allows them to become integrated. But even if you're not Magneto being a Holocaust survivor instantly earns him a shit-ton of sympathy and that combined with Evil Is Cool and Xavier not being lily-white himself makes it really easy to see Magneto as an Anti-Hero at worst.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#128210: May 13th 2021 at 3:36:44 PM

Doesn't The Dark World begin 5000 years ago?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128211: May 13th 2021 at 3:39:01 PM

Yeah but then you'll be going "who is Thor?" Same logic as First Avenger, Distant Prologue and Distant Epilogue of an individual movie barely count when discussing 'chronological watching order'.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 13th 2021 at 5:39:12 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128212: May 13th 2021 at 3:41:06 PM

More than half of every sci-fi or fantasy blockbuster begins with a 5 minute Distant Prologue that just exists to give backstory to a character, setting, or MacGuffin, so it shouldn't be counted as the story's whole time period.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#128213: May 13th 2021 at 3:43:09 PM

We kinda ignored the fact Shang Chi is gonna be on D+ after nearly *50* days

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128214: May 13th 2021 at 3:43:49 PM

A true chronological watch of the MCU would be interesting, completely ruin the context for anyone coming in new and would require jumping between different things after short clips some of the times.

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#128215: May 13th 2021 at 3:44:27 PM

[up][up]I'm not even sure how much hype this film has lol ?

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128216: May 13th 2021 at 3:50:02 PM

There is this almost 3 hour summary of every event in the MCU (as of Black Panther's release) in chronological order. Even includes the shows and comics.

I recall coming across a video that actually was every scene in the MCU in chronological order (sped up 1000 times) but I can't find it now.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 13th 2021 at 3:51:42 AM

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#128218: May 13th 2021 at 4:17:37 PM

True, the problem is Magneto is the biggest Draco in Leather Pants of the entire Marvel universe, and the better Magneto gets the more Xavier gets dragged into Ron the Death Eater in response.

Does he? I have never seen this.

Xavier's shadiness and morally questionable decisions have been heavily scrutinized by a lot of fans who are all too happy to turn a blind eye towards Magneto's numerous moral event horizons. It's gotten to the point that fans actually champion the X-men's new, more extremist stance as Xavier finally "waking up". Also, a lot of X-Men fans like using the term "flatscan" to describe humans unironically.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#128219: May 13th 2021 at 4:41:53 PM

I have a question. Did Carol have a canon love interest in the Captain Marvel movie? It's been a while since I saw it, and I don't remember her having one. I remember being impressed by the fact that she didn't.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#128220: May 13th 2021 at 4:44:02 PM

[up]Nope. She was focused on work stuff. Her rapports are platonic.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128221: May 13th 2021 at 4:54:28 PM

We kinda ignored the fact Shang Chi is gonna be on D+ after nearly *50* days

I'm not even sure how much hype this film has lol ?

From what I've seen around it's looking like 45 is the new theatrical window straight-up. The pandemic forced such a heavy adoption of streaming that four of the Big Five now have their own streaming platforms. It's just better business to put it online faster to bolster subscriptions.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#128222: May 13th 2021 at 5:01:06 PM

Did Carol have a canon love interest in the Captain Marvel movie?

Script-wise, no.

But seriously, Marvel, tell me there was nothing going on between her and Maria when they were taking pictures like this.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#128223: May 13th 2021 at 5:09:49 PM

Man, I hope The Marvels touches on how Maria's death affected Carol. I wonder if she tried to get in contact with Monica after the Snap was reversed.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#128224: May 13th 2021 at 5:11:42 PM

Soooo heard some rumor about Brie Larson leaving the MCU.

I couldn't find anything confirming it, so... I guess it's Bullshit, in all likehood?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128225: May 13th 2021 at 5:13:21 PM

Considering there's a certain sect that hate her and want her out, I would take any such rumors with a generous helping of salt.


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